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by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 12:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Can you layout for me the way you got to 500m for MNP No problem. If we can agree that a basic T31 plus GFE comes to ~£350m then add £50m per hull for the redesign from B1 to B2 that’s amounts to ~£400m. The additional fabrication of mission areas, stern ramp, davits etc should amount to at least a...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 11:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183947
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Illuminating. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/ukraine-war-uk-aid-ben-wallace-defence-spending-nato/. Defence has to be a general election issue War is coming. If Britain is to stand a chance, we must spend 3 per cent of GDP on the Armed Forces Britain needs a robust defence strategy to d...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 11:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5411
Views: 1419860
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Some nice shots here.
by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 10:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 15441
Views: 4408498
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Classic scaremongering ahead of a money fight IMO. If it really is being discussed then PWLS replacing QE at such short notice was extremely convenient. PWLS must not be sold but trying to operate both CVFs concurrently within the current fiscal envelope isn’t smart. An unfriendly government may ju...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 10:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

…. could be plausible …. It’s more than plausible but I think Babcock have already cleared that up. IMO RN are getting a class of Frigates that are already compromised. Something that was clear from day one with the A140 design. It’s also my opinion that RN do not have the headcount or funding to o...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Feb 2024, 08:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Seems a great deal more valuable a contribution than floating around the Pacific Rim. Visibly supporting one of our closest allies and sister nations. Not to mention a very good way to market Type 31 to the Aussies and others. P.S : Maybe they can chip in some crew if the RAN has a "looming su...
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 20:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19147
Views: 7055562
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: 28 Feb 2024, 20:29 I was thinking an iver huitfeldt with a tail.
Sounds like an 80% solution.
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 20:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Given the low number of escorts available it’s extremely difficult to see how this could be justified.

On the other hand if a meaningful increase in funding actually transpired…..

by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 16:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

RN aren't buying ASROC. Thee is nothing to say they're buying CAMM MR or ER. There is also no requirement out there stating that T31 needs to load 32x of a mixture of variant of FCASW. Priorities change. The cells should be fitted now to allow for changing priorities. Look at the difficulty in addi...
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 16:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

tomuk wrote: 28 Feb 2024, 06:36 Where are you getting these numbers from?
What numbers are you not clear about?
Why would T32 have half as many cells and cost so much?
There is absolutely no way the MNP or ASF will cost less than the T31 regardless of VLS cells.
T32 is T31B2.
The T32 isn’t anything yet.
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 06:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Babcock also states that in order to put those 16 cells in the B position, they had to add a hull plug… I believe 2.3m or 3m, I’m not sure. As is, T31 cannot take 16 Mk41 cells in the B position. It can however take 24 CAMM mushrooms, Babcock had a model with it when it first introduced T31. Strike...
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 05:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

No it isn't because the fitment of Mk41 isn't primarily for CAMM its to allow for FCASW. And B position isn't the obvious solution as you need to put the 40mm somewhere. Babcock clearly don’t agree as they put 16x Mk41 in the B position on the MNP concept. Which you get if you get close to if quad ...
by Poiuytrewq
28 Feb 2024, 00:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5972
Views: 1499846
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I would like to re-arrange the superstructure a bit fatter and shorter. This will enable second heli-pad at the bow, and make the hangar capable of 2 Merlin (or 1 Merlin + 4-6 UAVs, or 4 Wildcats). What would be the advantage over a more traditional design such as a Vard 7 313 if a MALE STOL drone ...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 23:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
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Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Ok CAMM in ExLS in Mk41 strike length is a ridiculous extravagance but CAMM in ExLS in Mk41 tactical length is the opposite? Yes. Why fit 32x Strike cells with no additional cells primarily to house CAMM when the B position is the obvious solution. Its illogical. RN doesn't have the money to keep m...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 23:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5972
Views: 1499846
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

new guy wrote: 27 Feb 2024, 23:15 Don't you start, you can't add 50% width onto a hull.
You don’t need to if you can go from clean sheet to a single hull class for £115m
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 23:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5972
Views: 1499846
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Bummer, I'll have to wait for the 3rd or 4th size up :cry: How much of this is overlapping into the U.K./Dutch Amphib program and the MRSS? Also how have Damen gone from a clean sheet to a single vessel class for less than £115m? Taking the MPSS up to an Enforcer sized beam dimension of 26m or 28m ...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 19:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5411
Views: 1419860
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Dazzling!

by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 17:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5972
Views: 1499846
United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Repulse wrote: 27 Feb 2024, 17:21 Good choice for an Argus replacement
With a one helo capacity?
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183947
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

…..don’t be expecting European nato to be providing any forces to help them diplomatically or otherwise anywhere else. That’s the conundrum. Pull out of Europe and the loss of influence may never be fully recovered even by a subsequent administration. Don’t pull out of Europe and not enough mass ca...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:22
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: New Medium Helicopter [NMH] - (RAF & AAC)
Replies: 479
Views: 49328
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Re: New Medium Helicopter [NMH] - (RAF & AAC)

HMG must be heading for a world record in procrastination for the NMH program. Regardless of the press releases the translation is something along the lines of….”due to inflation and the fact that we want to add pre election tax cutting giveaways to next months budget we have decided to further dela...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183947
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

SW1 wrote: 27 Feb 2024, 16:01 What rest are you referring to?
All US military assets in Europe.

If Biden can pull out of Afghanistan, Trump can most definitely, at least partially, pull out of Europe.

Euro NATO must start hedging now.
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 16:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Discussion on the missile fit out is there. George knows something which we do not…. Hopefully. Multiple sources are now suggesting that 32x Strike cells will be fitted. Time will tell. If 32x Strike cells are genuinely to be fitted it’s time that 16x Tactical cells also go into B position. Fitting...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 12:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183947
United Kingdom

Re: General UK Defence Discussion

The US has been asking European allies to spend what nato declares as needed for collective defence ie 2% of gdp. We do slightly more than that others much worse. We have massively subsidised the US both politically and militarily in its adventures these past 20 years so I’ll take no lectures from ...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 09:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8469
Views: 2142234
United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Ron5 wrote: 26 Feb 2024, 20:21 That's not going to be in the water anytime soon. So 3 months late and counting.

PS looks like its Bob's day to work at Govan :)
It looks like June/July at the earliest.
by Poiuytrewq
27 Feb 2024, 08:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 183947
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

…..already reasonable large budget. It is true that the U.K. has maintained a larger budget than other Euro countries over a sustained period but all of European defence has been massively subsidised by the US for decades. IMO, regardless of who becomes the 47th President the US will start to imple...