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- 11 Apr 2024, 21:16
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
The threat to Australia and the region is not going to be solved by GP assets with compromised ASW capabilities. The threat to Australia will be solved by SSNs and lots of F35. IMO the Canberras could ultimately be more useful than the Hunters. No I don’t, no two more will not cost £1bn each, and y...
- 11 Apr 2024, 18:34
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
- 11 Apr 2024, 09:32
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Any illusion that build a new “cheaper” (read compromised) class in a multi-national program and it will be a success is just that, an illusion - albeit sadly one that the Treasury will believe. Are you suggesting the Australians have got it completely wrong with their smaller, more numerous ASW ve...
- 11 Apr 2024, 09:28
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6180
- Views: 1871636
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
The only way this has a chance IMO is that this class is the only new one in the 2030s. If the Albions are not to return the replacements are needed now. The luxury of everything being needed a decade away is over for the foreseeable. How much money is going to be pissed away on endless concepts an...
- 11 Apr 2024, 08:13
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
I'm afraid Rosyth does not have the capability to design a new escort. They have never done any. T31 design was bought from Denmark. T31-mod can be, but I'm afraid they do not know how to make it ASW-quiet enough. Babcock doesn’t need to design anything. A partnership with BMT could continue the de...
- 10 Apr 2024, 23:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
It’s a fair point, but the last thing we need is another class of ASW frigate I’m not suggesting it’s the best direction of travel but the benefits are clear. • A joint £5bn program with a NATO member to produce 10x next-gen GP Frigates optimised for off-board systems including ASW. • Rosyth is sec...
- 10 Apr 2024, 20:56
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
It’s a MINIMUM of 5 Frigates. Ok, but you don’t write that unless the discussion starts with can five ships meet the requirement. I am not arguing just stating if it is 5x or more T26, when could BAE hope to deliver them and not impact the RN schedule? Conversely, if it was 5x or more ASW optimised...
- 10 Apr 2024, 20:36
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
The fact that Norway has increased significantly its budget but still aims for five frigates to me suggests they are aiming for quality, so the T26 should be in pole position. It’s a MINIMUM of 5 Frigates. “A strong maritime package: The Navy will get a minimum of five new frigates with anti-submar...
- 10 Apr 2024, 18:42
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5704
- Views: 1496169
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Even with the substantial hike in defence spending, is the Royal Norwegian Navy realistically going to be able to afford 5 x T26? It seems to me that it might be worth them considering either a 2 + 3 or a 3 + 2 mix with T31. Alternatively, 5 x FREMM or similar. What isn’t clear is what would 5x T26...
- 10 Apr 2024, 16:13
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 153885
Re: The future form of the Army
I think your scale and mine in each of these brackets is very very different. The top and bottom would be much much smaller than yours and middle similar…. The scale that I propose is in recognition of the possibility of a peer on peer clash and the inevitable attrition that would follow. It would ...
- 10 Apr 2024, 15:03
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
- Replies: 570
- Views: 150414
Re: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
The T32 is a complete distraction from the fundamental priority of adding mass back into the fleet. That is literally the purpose of the programme. To add mass by introducing a third class of Frigate when two classes are currently under construction? When was the last time RN had 3 classes of Friga...
- 10 Apr 2024, 09:21
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
- Replies: 570
- Views: 150414
Re: Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Another waste of money, 4M to be precise. Just build a batch 2 T31. If the T32 budget is around £2.5bn including GFE another 5x T31 isn’t necessarily the right approach. A mixed procurement of 2x T26 @ £875m unit plus 2x (ideally 3x) T31 at £375m unit costs the same amount. The T32 is a complete di...
- 10 Apr 2024, 09:12
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 153885
Re: The future form of the Army
They already are doing your first point. The armed forces are regularly exercising in the area and maintaining various commitments in the JEF area. Completely agree but what if the exercise lasted 6 months or one year? It’s easy to frame an exercise around what you know you can achieve. The logisti...
- 09 Apr 2024, 15:24
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: AUKUS (in general)
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1315
Re: AUKUS (in general)
I wonder if Canada can afford to fit into AUKUS?
- 09 Apr 2024, 15:17
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 153885
Re: The future form of the Army
If you’re saying the army has too many unsupported light infantry units yes it does if it’s serious about being a warfighting force against high end opponents. Exactly. What I am suggesting is a structure that works for what the Army can contribute today. The Army is currently planning to rebuild o...
- 08 Apr 2024, 22:36
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: SSN-AUKUS Future Astute Replacement (2030s) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 249
- Views: 93085
Re: SSN-AUKUS Future Astute Replacement (2030s) (RN) [News Only]
Another member? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/08/canada-justin-trudeau/. Canada could join Aukus defence pact as Trudeau considers nuclear sub patrols in Arctic waters…….The Canadian prime minister says he has already held ‘excellent conversations’ with the US, UK and Australia over...
- 08 Apr 2024, 21:22
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 153885
Re: The future form of the Army
If this is the lesson we need to heed then surely we should be significantly expanding our current supporting arms just to support the current units we have or make them significantly logistically lighter or both. Considering the amount of light Infantry the British Army has available is it possibl...
- 07 Apr 2024, 17:06
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 153885
Re: The future form of the Army
Moved across. For me as said Army can have 3 Divisions with 9 Brigades 1st Division with 3 Light Mech brigades 3rd Division with 2 x Combined armed brigades 6th Division with 16AA , Rangers , 11th SFA , SF brigade The key will be the 3 Light Mech Brigades and what vehicles they have for me one of th...
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:54
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255661
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Lots of sense here. The frustration with a lack of progress is palpable. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/06/britain-is-not-ready-for-war-ministers-defence-mod/. Britain is not ready for war – ministers couldn’t even turn up to the bunker….Defence readiness should be a whole-of-government ex...
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:39
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1561127
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
At the risk of being pedantic 'too much and not enough ' seems to be a judgement about perceived value for money rather than compromise. I'm not clear how they're 'compromised'? In my opinion they are too much (over spec’d) for EEZ patrol and not enough for global patrol as there is too much they c...
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:23
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1561127
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
They are too much and not enough.new guy wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024, 20:22Compromised how?Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024, 18:55
They are a compromised platform for global patrol and always will be unfortunately.
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:16
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1561127
- 06 Apr 2024, 20:13
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6180
- Views: 1871636
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
The war winning assets are other things that we would contribute. You win by ensuring the fighting never starts. Completely agree. More deployable Divisions will help in that endeavour. The Cold War was eventually won by isolating and fragmenting the politics of the communist block and bankrupting ...
- 06 Apr 2024, 19:39
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6180
- Views: 1871636
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
You can fight and win a battle using a division and can still lose the war. Having the ability to fight in a divisional structure is very different to deploying two divisions. What use are British Army Divisions if you can’t deploy them? Providing the Divisional HQ’s for other countries Brigades is...
- 06 Apr 2024, 19:21
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6180
- Views: 1871636
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Really?
When did the U.K. or US ever win against a peer without using the Divisional structure?