RetroSicotte wrote:Good grief.

Indeed. One worker missing, several injured...

Before these drip-feed amounts, added to the defence budget in the course of this year, we were level with https://www.statista.com/statistics/298490/defense-spending-united-kingdom-uk/ 2011/12, which means that in the intervening years there was a cumulative shortfall of £ 10.4 bn... quite a lot o...

ArmChairCivvy wrote:OK, cyber and ASW.

Why do the newspapers keep adding in deterrent, which
- has its own budget
- and a plentiful contingency?

Because they are against of it, so they are trying to make it look that if there's no UK deterrent- everything would be OK?

Russian aircraft carrier Admireal Kuznetsov damaged as floating dry dock sinks and crane hit's the carrier

https://navaltoday.com/2018/10/30/crane ... ock-sinks/

On the other hand, if this will become a permanent increase, why not ise it for pay rise for RN sailors that would be on escort ships, to try to alleviate manpower shortage?

Any details about that 1 billion extra? Just for this year or for rest of Parliament term?

About guns, anybody knows the prices for 57 mm and 76 mm gun? Last time I saw a direct quote as to cost, they were around $5m each, but that was several years ago. I think the significant cost difference was that the 57mm needed an RTB service more frequently than the 76mm (every 4 and 7 years, fro...

About guns, anybody knows the prices for 57 mm and 76 mm gun?

Hi, anybody knows how much did the Greeks pay for their 2 Hunt-class MCMs?

Naval Group presents a concept for new generation submarine:



https://navaltoday.com/2018/10/26/naval ... submarine/

While the capabilities these helicopters will provide is welcome, is it worth the price we are paying? At £2.7 billion for 16 or around £168 million each, even with add-ons, can it be justified? In my opinion only if they are modified for operating at sea with folding rotors etcetera can they be co...

abc123 No it’s not that at all. All company’s particularly aerospace ones are multinational, what should happen as part of these deals is agreements to put workshare in the uk in exchange, it may not even necessarily be on the contracts that were buying but on upcoming future contracts, the biggest...

As discussed elsewhere the MoD cannot take jobs or financial benefits to the UK into account when letting contracts, unless there is a directive from the Cabinet changing policy. Well, in that case, why not buy everything from States? Should be cheaper... Not to mention all that great interoperabil...

The plan for the T31 is to get them in the water, and upgrade them later if necessary. That's not what Sir John Parker wrote or what was said when the Type 31 program was kicked off. In fact he said the opposite, no expensive mid life refits but sell on the ships and build new ones. Been said befor...

abc123 No it’s not that at all. All company’s particularly aerospace ones are multinational, what should happen as part of these deals is agreements to put workshare in the uk in exchange, it may not even necessarily be on the contracts that were buying but on upcoming future contracts, the biggest...

Merlin simply doesn’t have the capability to operate across all the likely areas of operation, take it hot or high and its lifting ability drops off a cliff especially if it’s fully kitted out. Even taking off from a ship and having to climb a mountainous region over the coast it struggles in some ...

Dahedd wrote:Seems excessive. Why not upgrade or purchase new Merlins at the Italian spec. The HH-101A Caesar as they've called it.

Don't be silly, way better to support US industry than your own. And complain later that the French have better defence industry...

Quoting from the Metro , Captain Jerry Kyd says " We are the biggest carrier to go in there (New York) for about 50 years, " he said – highlighting how the larger nuclear-powered Nimitz Class American carriers are forbidden. https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/19/sailors-stand-at-attention-around...

But who want's to be a sailor in an ever shrinking navy? Where you have to fear that your ship will be axed every year or two because of "Defence Modernisation"?

Also, who would like 10 months long deployments?

It offers no protection and has little in the way of automation . An SPG is far more survivable than Caesar and an M777 is far more portable than Caesar (the Supacat LIMAWS(G) was a far more interesting offering). It's a cheap, very limited self propelled gun with little to really recommend it. As ...

It offers no protection and has little in the way of automation . An SPG is far more survivable than Caesar and an M777 is far more portable than Caesar (the Supacat LIMAWS(G) was a far more interesting offering). It's a cheap, very limited self propelled gun with little to really recommend it. As ...

Maybe he thought that ( predominatly ) human influence on GW is a hoax?

Another cut in disguise?

Poiuytrewq wrote:One is impressive, but two together is going to be awesome

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Definitly agreed, IF we ever see them together like that and IF they buy enough planes and IF the RAF releases them for carrier service...

Deal as gd as done Looks like it is. And for once we should all be grateful as this seems a very positive, cost neutral, increase in capability. A year ago we were facing a long drawn out upgrade of the E-3 fleet that had the potential, if we're honest, to be continually cut during its duration. He...