I think we’ve been round what I wouldn’t do going fwd without needing to go round it again . How we do capital allocation is a gd question and what is funded as a result balance or bias. Agreed, covering old ground is tedious. Reducing tasks further from what I outlined is cutting gone too far. It ...

They’ve been “better managing” the budget for decades with little sign of much difference to be honest. We have to accept we cut our cloth accordingly until we do things won’t improve. Completely agree. My point is if funding can be secured for the T32 program (~£2.5bn) and the Amphibious replaceme...

Why will the type 31 need more crew as I keep saying the IH class a full fat AAW frigate has a crew of 118 not including the aircrew Can proper damage control be achieved on a 138m Frigate with less than 118 crew! Just my opinion but I am expecting the allocation to be around 130 plus specialists f...

Also the RN are nursing the T-23's the end no need to double crew them it would only kill them off quicker the fact is at this time with these ships we don't need more crew teams as there are no ships to put them on

The 2 Echos specialist's are now going to RFA Proteus as you say the remaining Hunt and Sandown crews will work up on new MCM kit as it comes on line All helicopter Bobs are specialist crews in this term As the MCM and hydrographic will be in teams these teams can work from host ships weather that i...

Yes but this not the ships crew. the ships crew is the ships crew the number of crew needed to fight the ship and control any damage the specialist teams will move on and off the ship as needed weather this is MCM , EMF , helicopter , UAV's , and so on these people come from other parts of the Navy...

what I mean is the the model that Babcock put out of a AH-140 with missions bays Core is core but I think the point that is often missed is that core is a baseline that will always be added too. The modular and off-board systems will require specialists to operate them plus an EMF to utilise them w...

What the Navy needs to workout is how can it support everything from supporting 2 x LSU's of 250 troops full time all the way to supporting a re-enforced Brigade insertion

and to be clear a re-enforced Brigade would be a Army mechanised brigade re-enforced with a Commando Battalion battle group

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 10:46

Tempest414 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 10:44 But you still have not told me why more crew will be needed for a AH-140 based T-32 over a T-31

Do you mean a T31 Batch 2?

what I mean is the the model that Babcock put out of a AH-140 with missions bays

Why will the type 31 need more crew as I keep saying the IH class a full fat AAW frigate has a crew of 118 not including the aircrew Can proper damage control be achieved on a 138m Frigate with less than 118 crew! Just my opinion but I am expecting the allocation to be around 130 plus specialists f...

Also the talk of only 11 crews that is all that is needed at this time one type 23 is beyond repair three are in deep maintenance/ Life ex the rest are being nursed to there replacements come on line Type 45 three are working 2 are in PIP one in deep maintenance and again I would not be surprised if...

Fantasy yes, but a good illustration that manning is a real factor regardless of how much money is spent on new platforms. As an illustration of this ,CDS told defence select committee this week that the RAF didn’t need any more A400M aircraft, they just needed better availability. Regardless of th...

For the next decade yes there after we need 1 or 2 LHD's as well as the carriers As for the Merlin's we 28 HC-4 with 25 in service I believe if so we could at this time have 4 dedicated to each Carrier and 4 to RFA Argus = 12 leaving 14 for UK based maintenance and training I’m told we only have ~1...

Haven’t heard anything recently, but in the past the open discussion was that as both LPDs haven’t been worked hard (in and out of reserve) it’s likely they could last longer, perhaps late 2030s. Whilst there were noises that the maintenance in reserve hadn’t been the best (longer reactivation time...

For the next decade yes there after we need 1 or 2 LHD's as well as the carriers As for the Merlin's we 28 HC-4 with 25 in service I believe if so we could at this time have 4 dedicated to each Carrier and 4 to RFA Argus = 12 leaving 14 for UK based maintenance and training I’m told we only have ~1...

Interesting that clear distinction between some who try to reflect the (admittedly very slender) limited details that we know about FCF in their proposals. And some that choose to ignore those limited details of FCF to fit in with their own viewpoint(s). Can you widen this out a bit like what do yo...

I have been thinking about the Gurkha's as said at this time we have 4000 and with what has been said about recruitment and retention and if we could would growing the Gurkha's to 10,000 be a good move with 10,000 we could have 1 x Light recce strike battalion 3 x Infantry battalions 2 x Artillery r...

For the next decade yes there after we need 1 or 2 LHD's as well as the carriers

As for the Merlin's we 28 HC-4 with 25 in service I believe if so we could at this time have 4 dedicated to each Carrier and 4 to RFA Argus = 12 leaving 14 for UK based maintenance and training

Which for us means the carrier needs to be present or are we gonna take bigger risks? (can’t see our politicians doing that) This is the most unexplained part of the FCF direction of travel. I think the answer involves PWLS forming the centre (when required) of a UK based ARG as LRG(N) but how logi...

I agree with the post above this is a great start and gets us out of the blocks on this but we really need to take a off the shelf design and and make it what we want if they are 100 meters they could be built at Appledore or at CL sign a contract for 3 with options for 3 more

Interesting that clear distinction between some who try to reflect the (admittedly very slender) limited details that we know about FCF in their proposals. And some that choose to ignore those limited details of FCF to fit in with their own viewpoint(s). Can you widen this out a bit like what do yo...

So what I can find so far is that in Oct 2018 Ultra was award a MOD contract for 3 S2150 sonars for the B1 type 26's where BAE awarded the contract for the CAPTAS 4

But once again there is a extra cost to the program

Can anyone find the contract for same sonar for the Batch 1 order as this may clear it up But this now takes the Type 26 program costs to 9.1 billion and also takes the batch 2 unit price from 840 to 846 million and we can only conclude that there will be other contracts for the TAS & radar As f...

It did say the supply installation and trials of 5 additional sonars for batch 2 type 26 Yes, but strictly speaking, the argument still does not contradict with "by re-using the T23 sonar". We know originally they say reusing S2150 of T23 for T26. If it has changed, I think some announcem...

It did say the supply installation and trials of 5 additional sonars for batch 2 type 26