New info about Finnish "Bouncing mine". Half a bucket sized, jumps up to 25m and shoot pellets down below. Ottawa compliant. Has sparked interest from Poland, China and Russia to mention a few. Will UK be interested?

Anyone know why this forum has so little activity? The Finnish military forum has almost 3000 members and hundreds of members and guests active during day time at any given time and hundreds of replies every day. In Finland most people have experience in the military in some way, so naturally gathe...

Anyone know why this forum has so little activity? The Finnish military forum has almost 3000 members and hundreds of members and guests active during day time at any given time and hundreds of replies every day.

Lord Jim wrote:Thinking about it, I think the 50 Cal had a Firing Post with foldable legs called the M63

M2 has quite a bit slower RoF than NSV which makes it less suitable for AA.

ArmChairCivvy wrote:Looks like ELTA Systems won the contract for counter-battery radars (they do more: e.g. the deconflicting of the airspace - for whatever their range might be; not disclosed).

Very good news, long sought after capability.

on top of ATV. The tripod can be set in low setting to allow more stable firing I understand; that the high setting is for anything up in the sky? Otherwise it would nicely replicate out Panther set up (the 50 cal not being able to fire sideways... not that the improvised US Stryker gun could do th...

and one NSV which is known as ITKK 96 The prime mover for that beast is not shown on the piccie (the gunner looks happy... as he did not have to carry it?) It can be carried by three man team quite easily or on top of ATV. The tripod can be set in low setting to allow more stable firing even withou...

ArmChairCivvy wrote:

Voldemort wrote:three fireteams. Two PKMs

Pretty good going

Jäger platoon can support its maneuver with six PKMs and one NSV which is known as ITKK 96 or antiair machinegun model 96 here.

In Finland our jäger squads are nine strong, divided into three fireteams. Two PKMs, LAWs and APILAS depending on situation. Atleast one RK with ACOG. Then there's claymores, AT mines and such.

The Finns did a bloody good job by constantly renaming their divisions in the last war - to confuse the assailant - I can see the tradition is continued ;) Not having a standing army allows this, it's pretty hard to conceal ORBAT of professional or standing army. I've never heard of this constantly...

You can deduce all kinds of things from those artillery numbers (valdemort can advice how many pieces are in each current "establishment strength", by type of formation, on mobilisation?): 122mm How => allocated at BG level 120mm Mor => allocated at Bn level SP artillery => armoured &...

ArmChairCivvy wrote:countries

These battlegroups as made for purpose. They weren't infantry battalions where artillery battalion was added but made as they are to begin with.

Regiments are used rarely. Artillery and AA use regiment for their training units but that's about it.

In each infantry battalion battlegroup there are 18 D-30s Thanks, now we can do some calculations :D A bit lost on the terminology: When the mech BGs were set up, they were 1700+ and the motorised (note: still under armour) close to 1600 - as the grouping became the "going currency" also ...

Motorised battlegroup has one tank coy with Leo2A4 nowadays. Abbreviation "PSV" stands for panssarivaunu which means armoured tracked vehicle, panzerwagen. Translation: TJPSV= FO HINPSV= towing LÄÄKPSV= medical SILTAPSV=Bridge RaivausPSV= Mine clearance 23 ITK = ZU-23-2 122 PSH = 2S1 120 K...

You can deduce all kinds of things from those artillery numbers (valdemort can advice how many pieces are in each current "establishment strength", by type of formation, on mobilisation?): 122mm How => allocated at BG level 120mm Mor => allocated at Bn level SP artillery => armoured &...

Finland has published its 2019 Vienna documents.

ArmChairCivvy wrote:

Voldemort wrote:We bought MLRS because nothing else was available.

Himars?

Seemed to have existed at the time but not in surplus and hence too expensive. So only viable option was surplus MLRS, just like with Dutch Leo2A6s.

AW should really be called Area-effects, not ' Alternative'. Anyway, the Finns wanted the launchers on tracks and were quite hesitant about the support vehicles being on wheels - the liberal range (though inferior to Smerch) gives you enough options as to where to stop and what to drive through, to...

AW [guided rocket and] validated [its] performance. So they did not take these tests at face value? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=b5h7BkCj5rI Notably only semi-hard targets used, and the hardest of those (in the BMP class as for protection) not shown in the after impact frame...

Finnish Army has conducted first live firing with M31 AW guided rocket and validated its performance.

Patria having revealed their new 6x6 last summer In the early days of A M V that was often talked about, but the news piece has passed me by - do you have any links for that? The first (then one and only) Protolab errr, proto, came here, to the UK, for blast resistance testing - must have passed, i...

Finnish GTP by Sisu has won competition for new 4x4 in Latvia. Things are looking very good for Finnish armoured vehicle industry with Sisu winning in Latvia, Patria having revealed their new 6x6 last summer and Protolad selling four PMPVs to FDF for testing.

We (Finland) have moved to having battlegroup as de facto main type of formation. They're more of a half brigade than battalion (+). Battlegroup includes 3-4 jäger companies, HQ and signals company, mortar company, artillery battalion, CSS company and engineer company. How does that work for you, a...

Much rather I'd pay attention to volume of fire. SFMs with tens of skeets like Bonus raining down EFP death or FAE to take out your hidy hole and the next block too.

We (Finland) have moved to having battlegroup as de facto main type of formation. They're more of a half brigade than battalion (+). Battlegroup includes 3-4 jäger companies, HQ and signals company, mortar company, artillery battalion, CSS company and engineer company.