Coming back briefly to the discussion on the River thread about whether the Mk110 57mm gun has a larger footprint than the Mk45 127mm. I'm still finding it hard to believe, but am happy to be corrected if someone can point towards evidence. The Mk3, on which the Mk110 is closely based, is carried on...

I'm keeping out of this one.

Tempest414 wrote:I may be wrong but a 40mm has a longer range and the same stopping power as LMM. If this is right why bother with a few LMM on a 40mm mount

Good point, well made. And a 40mm round will be a good deal cheaper.

Ron5 wrote:Size not weight.

Above deck? below deck? width? Are you saying it has a larger overall footprint?

That's how the DS30 is loaded. That's how Phalanx is reloaded. Absolutely. But does that make it optimum? Seems better to avoid if possible. Now if you could combine the 40mm with LMM, then your talking. I don't see why LMM paniers couldn't be attached to any mount as long as the recoil isn't too g...

By comparison the 40mm is incredibly compact and still has sizeable magazines, so doesn't require anything below deck. For the sake of completeness 40mm mk 4 Empty weight 2,300 kg https://www.baesystems.com/en/download-en/20190326234549/1434555371622.pdf I keep hearing this claim that the 40mm is n...

That is how absolutely massive the Bofors 57mm mk.110 is. Much larger than the BAE Mk45 5" or even the latest Oto Merala 76mm, which is itself considerably bigger than the one fitted to HTMS Krabi. I'm not quite sure what you're looking at. From the manufacturer's own datasheets. 57mm mk110 Em...

That would imply 10 UK F35. Do we have 10 deplorable? I’ve lost track of how many we have with 617 and how many with the OCU squadron. I believe the UK still has 18 F35s. That's 15 at Marham pooled between 617 and 207, and three test and development aircraft retained in the US. In addition the deli...

The challenge here is to somehow choreograph securing contracts with building a workforce. They need orders to raise capital, but it will need to be really well co-ordinated. When Johnson, who has a very shaky relationship with facts, visited on Aug 25 he said: “There are potential contracts, and fo...

Don't know why you think Appledore still retains 70 per cent of its pre-closure workforce. According to the North Devon Gazette article posted by Repulse on Aug 29 the workforce there now is one (1), the site manager. According to infrastrata's last annual report their entire workforce - including a...

Well, the question wasn't rhetorical (neither was the one where I asked if you were one of those that felt that "the UK, despite having been a world leader in the science of fish conservation for many years, will suddenly be incapable of doing it without Big Brother to hold it's hand?" Th...

As I recall it, you were the one who brought up the fish, so to speak. I just picked you up on your statement that fish "weren't natural resources". As for international co-operation, is that even a controversial subject? As I said, no-one disagrees about the necessity of fish conservatio...

I was talking about fishing, but I guess you didn't get that. It's the activity of fishing (i.e. the act of extracting natural maritime resources) that is the issue here, not the availability of fish stocks You seem to have got yourself firmly wedged down a rabbit hole. And you still haven't answer...

May be for those of pre-school age now, things will have settled down by the time they will need to earn their living. I've got teenagers who are going to end up clearing up after this shitshow. It's a twist of fate that many are remarkably thoughtful and articulate and regard those who grew up in ...

A ludicrous statement. Just because they are mobile doesn't affect the fact that they are naturally occurring. Biotic resources is simply a way of describing the organic subset of natural resources. Agricultural animals and other produce are also classed as natural resources, despite the fact that ...

And fish aren't natural resources. They're biotic resources that can cross international boundaries. Just to expand on why this matters. A fish can be French at Breakfast, British in time for lunch and French again by dinner. The important point is they're a finite resource and a shared resource. T...

Yes, of course, it applied until send of 2020. The point is that it will cease to apply thereafter, at which point the EU fleet is legally entitled to 0% of fish in our waters. Accounting for the minority of fishing that the UK fleet does in EU waters, the EU is a net beneficiary of the CFP; the UK...

So you can't name a country that has agreed to allow another country/bloc take it's fish stocks for an FTA? Oh dear. We fish for shellfish in French waters. They don't like it. Soon we won't be able to. But again, you're not addressing the real point. Free trade is far more important to the UK econ...

plunder it's natural resources Drop the hyperbole. Every treaty, whether it's trade, or defence and security require those that sign-up to abide by conditions. That's how agreements work. When you're talking about plundering resources you're talking about fish aren't you? The common fisheries polic...

dmereifield wrote:You forget the third category, the one that most democrats fall under: not willing to trade democratic accountability and self governance for an FTA

No. This very definitely ticks the "fetish" box.

But who's complaining or moaning I'm very happy on wto only deal There are generally two types of people who say they are happy with WTO rules. First, those who don't understand what it means. Then there are those who have some sort of fetishistic desire to punish their fellow-citizens. When they f...

What about all the other non EU independent countries but getting back to Australia bet they wouldn't join a block that tries to impose all the restrictions that the EU is proposing to bind the UK too ,they wouldn't have it in fact no other countries would except it,and also the UK might join block...

No probs albedo ,that's fine you have different views ,I just think as time goes by the UK will do just fine and not be as doom laden as folks say ,ok maybe less potential GDP than in block but to counter this it can set its own path just like Australia , Canada,or lots of countries do and not have...

SKB wrote:Guess who's TV licence just expired at midnight, is refusing to buy another, has detuned tv and detached antennas and tuner boxes ?!

Try Parler. I'm sure you'll feel at home.

Repulse wrote:Albions to act as Ram platforms

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