All of this is quite right but JC will have one or two 3030 turrets in hand and the Leopard 1 3105 ( part of the 3030 range) upgrade was just a turret , turret ring adaptor and power cable adaptor This is just a back up if Ajax falls down again and Warrior needs to carry on in the armoured Recce rol...

abc123 wrote: ↑09 May 2023, 17:01

Tempest414 wrote: ↑09 May 2023, 16:47

As for Type 32 this will be a Type 31 Batch 2

And we probably will never see it.

Maybe we will have to see

….imply that they could be easily upgraded for that. The potential is apparent but the financials are currently lacking. Interesting recent comments from the Second Sea Lord regarding the T31 via Harry Lye/Shephard Media. One subject of contention for the RN has been conflicting reports about the T...

CAAM has a system limit of 48 cells. To go to 72 cells requires either expensive development and/or expensive duplication. Isn't it the channel number of datalink? If so, if you do not fire "more than 48 missiles" at once, there is no problem. Also, having x1.5 more missiles will negate t...

Yes, but would that have been “transformational”? Compared to where we are now? Very much so. More even than that if we'd kept up with the upgrade path. would there be anything in sending a Warrior to John Cockerill to see if they could fit a 3030 turret to it and if so how easily it could be done....

When will the Warriors go out of service I can't see it until 2030 or even 2032 would there be anything in sending a Warrior to John Cockerill to see if they could fit a 3030 turret to it and if so how easily it could be done. If we take there 3105 upgrade of Leopard 1 they made a new turret ring ad...

It will all depend on which gun the Type 83 is to be fitted with for me I would like to see T-83 go the whole hog and have 1 x 127mm , 2 x 57mm and dragons fire As for type 45 right now we don't have enough of them to go sending them on NGFS duties the loss of a T-45 doing this job is just not accep...

SW1 wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 09:15 Not much use if you need the heli pad.

I don't this as a problem on the RB2's and RFA's. The RB2's could put the Radar container at the end of the crane housing and a CAMM container on one waist point and a UAV container on the other and still be able to land a Wildcat

An Australian variation on the PODs concept? https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/05/australia-considering-modular-c-dome-for-arafura-opvs/ of course we could do this on the RB2's with Giraffe 1X mounted on a container and 1 or 2 CAMM pallets/pods plug and play within 4 hours given we now know...

I think the human side of the equation is often overlooked. To have an effective navy, you need motivated crew - people join to have a career, go to sea and see the world, not sit it sub standard accommodation. This is why a numerous balanced hi/lo globally deployed fleet is critical. And we have a...

SHORAD on boxer We shouldn't be abandoning ADAD....a passive search system is incredibly useful... Also though....M230LF's are a very poor AA gun....very low velocity. Bushmaster 30mm is a very different beast. Plus...we've got several hundred CTA 40mm laying around.... I would agree but we will ne...

Might be an opportunity for RN to amend the contract if four T31 and six T32 is preferred to 5 of each. For what purpose? ……Five T31 build is "on track", but just lack money. Can’t agree. The T31 programme is in trouble. If the extra costs are purely inflationary then it’s no problem but ...

Again, T31 isn't exactly fixed in stone, but any major change could take away a few of 'Less R&D' elements. Babcock has a key a MoI with DH defence, key PODS system company. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/babcock-and-sh-defence-sign-mou-for-arrowhead-140-frigate/ T31, has been adv...

donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑04 May 2023, 16:25 Further info, thanks to Xavier-san

So when I look at this it is slightly bigger Absalon with 2 x Palfigar slipway systems and what I have been saying for 6 months or more

First thing First Type 31 program cost per hull including GFE is 400 million not 500 million ( 5 x 400 = 2 bn ) and the build cost of type 31 per ship is 268 million including GFE The big question that some here really will not like is what effect is all this having on Type 26 we know the 3.7 billi...

And this why the UK should have 3 Stryker type brigades based on Patria 6x6

This is highly embarrassing for Russia on the one hand a Ukraine slow moving drone made it all the way to the Kremlin meaning there air defence is shit and they can't protect the Russian people and on other hand they have stooped so low as to think there people are so thick they will suck it up ethe...

First thing First Type 31 program cost per hull including GFE is 400 million not 500 million ( 5 x 400 = 2 bn ) and the build cost of type 31 per ship is 268 million including GFE The big question that some here really will not like is what effect is all this having on Type 26 we know the 3.7 billio...

Uhmm. I discussed two independent radars. 1: SAAB SeaGiraffe 1X, 11-sets of which are ordered from SAAB by UK mod. This is, in some sense, "mini-Giraffe AMB" used for SkySabre (land-ceptor) SAM. X-band, 150 kg weight, rotating at 1 second pitch. - 75 km instrumented range 2: Another one I...

So the SAAB contract is for SEK 264 million = 20.5 million pounds this is for 11 systems and support so the cost per radar system is maybe a bit lower maybe 1.5 million

With this being said it could be good to fit them to the RB2's and Bay's

SW1 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 23:20 https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2023/04/ ... idge-chap/

Again it is not that far from what has been talked about here

Before everyone starts panicking about the NSBS, please note that the ship is owned by Seagull Maritime and leased to the FI Government, not HMG (yes, the BOT's own their own stuff & have been known to pay for them out of their own revenue). Presumably this is paid for out of the license fees f...

The XV's getting a new 3D surveillance radar to trial. https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2023/saabs-giraffe-1x-wins-uk-ministry-of-defence-orders One of these would be a decent upgrade for the River B2s. People are always talking about upgunning them but giving them a decent radar would ...

Why isn't she built in UK? National shipbuilding strategy has many many "holes". "Why isn't she built in UK?". Of course, license building of Damen 5009 in UK will cost much much higher than buying one from Vietnam's Damen shipyard. But, this is what the National shipbuilding st...

i worry about continueing the notion of making more understrength formations. two recognised negative trends in UK land formations in recent years: 1. pretend brigades - that don't have permanent and appropriately scaled CS/CSS. in the process of considering whether to add 3Cdo to that sorry list: ...