It's obvious that the Type 31s are too lightly armed. That's because of the procurement process that challenged industry to meet a specific price-point. The alternative to the Arrowhead 140 was a much smaller vessel equally as poorly armed. It's absolutely crystal clear which the RN wanted. It's th...

Why are the D Models being retired so early? Have they run out of airframe life ? ( not followed this topic so i am curious ). Is it the same scenario as the Typhoon Trance 1's where we have lots of airframe life left, but because we cannot "upgrade" them - we just retire them even though...

I’d disagree on the original apache purchase because it was commonising engines with a fully supported supply chain in country and a fully sovereign DAS system which resulted in a superior product in the region it deployed to for a number of years. The question that should of be asked after that wa...

I’d disagree on the original apache purchase because it was commonising engines with a fully supported supply chain in country and a fully sovereign DAS system which resulted in a superior product in the region it deployed to for a number of years. The question that should of be asked after that wa...

However at the same time we need to Change the way HMT go about defence as well

I think that any new money should come in the form of UOR's i.e a requirement is idented and then funded something like 600 x Patria 6x6 for a medium BCT with ACP , C&C , SP mortar , Over watch , Assault Pioneer , Ambulance cost 700 million over 4 years 30 x HIMARS based on a MAN 6x6 to support ...

I’d disagree on the original apache purchase because it was commonising engines with a fully supported supply chain in country and a fully sovereign DAS system which resulted in a superior product in the region it deployed to for a number of years. The question that should of be asked after that wa...

Moved over from the Falklands thread @ wargame_insomnica I have noted previously that I believe several ships in the RN have been built bigger than they need to be for their actual armanent. That is why I would like to see ship in between RB2 and T31, a 105m-110m sloop fits that perfectly, as minim...

Interesting but a bit over egged as 3 time last year we had 3 x re-enforced Battalion battle groups deployed in Europe and at the same time we had a Battalion battle group in Cyprus What we need to do now is stand up a Armoured Brigade and hold it at readiness for a year no matter what NATO want but...

UK ships built - operated and then sold from the mid 70s Island class OPV's x 7 Castle class OPV's x 2 River class OPV x 1 Type 21 x 6 Type 22 x 7 Type 23 x 3 HMS Ocean Bay class x 1 Upholder class SSK's ( built for the UK but sold ti Canada ) Hunt class x 5 Sandown class x 7 So as seen we have a go...

Moved over from the Falklands thread @ wargame_insomnica I have noted previously that I believe several ships in the RN have been built bigger than they need to be for their actual armanent. That is why I would like to see ship in between RB2 and T31, a 105m-110m sloop fits that perfectly, as minimu...

I think we should move over to the future escort thread with this

Camcopter @ $3.3 million for 2 S-100's a ground station ground equipment and logistics so 5 would cost 16 million pounds the same as one set of NSM of one T-31 Puma is good but very limited which is reflected in the price Not sure about the price, compared to recent contract. Does the "Camcopt...

mr.fred wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 11:01

Tempest414 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 08:07 Are taking about the Susat sight fitted to L85 ? if so it has a Obelisk coming up from the bottom of the sight picture

No, he’s asking about the ACOG fitted to the L85A2, after the SUSAT and before the LDS.

Was that not a T coming from the bottom

Camcopter @ $3.3 million for 2 S-100's a ground station ground equipment and logistics so 5 would cost 16 million pounds the same as one set of NSM of one T-31 Puma is good but very limited which is reflected in the price as for the question what would I prefer a 40mm or a Camcopter system I would t...

The counter narcotics and all the other maritime security tasks don’t go away thought, move one west to east thru the Panama Canal.. True, but USCG are usually the prosecuting authorities on that, in that we would normally transfer any smugglers into their custody at the first opportunity, so they ...

Are taking about the Susat sight fitted to L85 ? if so it has a Obelisk coming up from the bottom of the sight picture

An RB1 has covered the task in the past send one of those give it a Puma UAV for better search and track or send a Tide Class tanker with a helicopter

For me Camcopter is a great starting point for the OPV's with each ship carrying 1 full system with one vehicle fitted with I-master radar this would allow 5 hours of patrol time and up to 4000km/2 to be searched the second one could fitted with a IR/EO turret to give Overwatch of boarding operatio...

Would be a great tour for a RB1 crew and would not be the first time a RB1 has covered this task or send a Tide class

For me Camcopter is a great starting point for the OPV's with each ship carrying 1 full system with one vehicle fitted with I-master radar this would allow 5 hours of patrol time and up to 4000km/2 to be searched the second one could fitted with a IR/EO turret to give Overwatch of boarding operatio...

For me Camcopter is a great starting point for the OPV's with each ship carrying 1 full system with one vehicle fitted with I-master radar this would allow 5 hours of patrol time and up to 4000km/2 to be searched the second one could fitted with a IR/EO turret to give Overwatch of boarding operation...

The RN is getting one. IMO this actually quite embarrassing for the UK. Why are all of the RB2s not getting this system? Why not have 8 to 10 units to spread across the escorts, amphibious and OPV’s. What if this single UAS gets damaged or lost? It a sad state of affairs that this is the best that ...

Whether we can or can not sell or pass on a system should not be the main driver in procurement of a system However if there is not a lot in it between systems the one that gives the best flexibility should win out As far as the UK is concerned for me we know Javelin it fits on our RWS's we should s...

Increasingly struggling to see the point of mk41 for the RN. We aren’t putting camm, aster in it we’ve bought NSM which is canister launched and we are developing a new land attack/anti ship missile with France which is likely to replace tlam and we are unlikely to pay to put it in mk41 especially ...