I agree cutting any T26 would be stupid, I don't think they will as it will be a few years (late 20's-2030's ? ) until the total cost will have to be paid for the second batch due to a glacial build rate... I could see them doing a second batch of 3, then a 3rd batch though ! to spread ( raise ! ) t...

In this review I think we will be lucky to just retain the plans we had from the last review, i.e. 2nd batch of T26 !!! if we can keep a Albion & both carriers on rotation that would be good But further ahead, a second batch of T31 would be good with a hull mounted or TAS if viable, would be bet...

How many B21 would Australia need though? minimum of 6 ? That's a lot of dosh !!!

Have the americans got any airbases they could use in Oz & would a joint squadron be viable to share infrastructure costs ?

Thanks for the reply xav

I'm not surprised something like this would get pushed back until the best possible moment. spending money on defense at the moment would probably not go down to well with the majority of voters - unfortunately

I think your right another carrier in the area to counter china would be good Would be good to see but would that not require a total redesign converting a slower LHD to 30 knot + CATOBAR carrier ? might be easier buy the Cavour design from the Italians or the Japanese izumo, i'm sure either would b...

Isn't that the same UAV that our Australian friends are going to buy for their needs along with the P8? I seem to remember reading somewhere that we in the UK were thinking about something similar, would think we need something more than just 9 x P8's especially if a land surveillance role maybe on ...

Would a few airbus C295mpa fit the role ?

Used for low level short range coastal patrol to keep an eyeball on shipping with a rescue ability, how many could be bought for the price of say 3 x p8's ? then use the P 8's for long range missions,

Halfway there, They are the size of frigates !!

Wonder what people would think of the T31 if they had 24 x CAMM & 16mk41 vls, TAS or HMS as well as the guns? oh well....

Caribbean wrote:As long as those B3 Rivers come with a 5" gun, 36 CAMM, Phalanx and a towed array, everyone will be happy

Edit: Forgot the hangar and Mk41s

Might be a bit snug !!!

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When does the QE get her 30mm cannon, out of interest. Not sure if it is 100% accuarate but reading about the QEC plans 2020/21 Re-reading a older "Save the royal navy" there is a piece about the guns etc in the paragraph above the F35 photo https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/counting-down-...

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Ansawed my question as to why POW is out to sea next month, cheers

Will be good to see QE operating with other nations assets in the autumn

Awsome !!! UK CSG 2021 ?

I really like the Crowsnest merlin, but only 8 x F35b, must be before the usmc come aboard

Never thought about the 40mm from the T31 instead of the 30mm, perhaps the MOD / navy are considering their options, hence the delay ? if it is a delay ? What is the cost compared to the 30mm ? would they fit martlet to the mount aswell in the future ? What are the benefits, fire rate, stopping powe...

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The MOD comment is awsome !!!

I think your right about the POW being too big for Oz, just think of all the extra F35 (B version for the navy) they would have to buy, Trump would love it !!! hope he's not reading this as it may give him idea's

Perhaps The the UK MOD may do a swapsie ! POW for a Canberra & some more E7's ? :lol: Sell the Albion's if we can ( as we have a Canberra LHD ) Start building the FSSS, mid 2030's build a carrier to replace the sold POW, maybe a bigger ( 45-50k tonnes ) versatile Cavour type F35b carrier with a ...

Sounds like a great plan to me Ron Then the scots will moan about another dock that could get the QEC refit work !!!

5.5 build the Albions replacement (s) weather it would be LPD/LHD

I was hoping the idea was to assemble the FSSS blocks ( made at various locations inc CL ) at rosyth like the carriers, after the T31 are assembled & in the water ( last one in the water fitting out in 2026? ) then maybe after the FSSS are built the experience would help with the Albion's replac...

would be good !! love the little sign infront if the phalanx !!!

Perhaps russia could buy the Liang from china to replace him, when china commissions their first CATOBAR carrier cant really the point in china keeping Liang when a couple of CATOBAR carriers enter service...maybe late late 20's.....

Still sounds like a P&O ferry

I was actually thinking of having a Kalaat type LPD as a self escorting ( maybe a few more CAMM ) raiding type multi mission ship

Would be great to see on deck of a QEC with the f35 hopefully could also do a long range sort of CAP to relieve pressure on the F35

Sounds like you were there

I do like the wing on the CGI !! better looking than a normal delta wing, would it be called a cranked delta wing ?