I'd agree there, i can't see any large increase in funding so we need to cut our cloth accordingly.

My point at the beginning was alot of the numbers are just plucked out of thin with seemingly no thought as to why. Really? Which numbers are those? As an example most numbers to do with the F35, there's alot of speculation about how many, how they should be organised, how sqns work, how many sorti...

Back in 2018, evidence submitted to the Defence Select Committee argues that seven additional P-8 Poseidon aircraft should be acquired, bringing the total fleet to 16 aircraft. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-may-need-more-p-8s-to-expand-security-ambitions/#:~:text=Back%20in%202018%2C%20evidence...

Things improve by scaling back commitments and focusing on specific priorities that’s means scaling back in some areas. Sounds good but what you proposing to cut? The UK needs 12 SSNs, without additional funding where is the money for extra 5 SSNs coming from? The UK needs 24 escorts, where is the ...

I put it in quotes as it's my words short handed to reflect that there's a lack of 'why' when building up fantasy fleets. I don't think it's helped by looking at raw numbers of equipment with all that goes with it. I get a lot of the important issues surrounding equipment purchases are either too du...

Still the wrong way around, sort out stockplies, spares, people, estates, wages then work out how much stuff we can buy. I am not saying we should buy anything that is not already on order and in production what I am saying is get our house in order and invest in people and estates I'd review the e...

I suppose if you take that line you could keep going back in history as far as you liked. If you don't know why we need all that stuff that's fine. Are you suggesting the cuts in SDSR2010 were a positive for the UK Armed Forces and the overall security of the U.K. and the British Overseas Territori...

I suppose if you take that line you could keep going back in history as far as you liked.

If you don't know why we need all that stuff that's fine.

Still the wrong way around, sort out stockplies, spares, people, estates, wages then work out how much stuff we can buy. I am not saying we should buy anything that is not already on order and in production what I am saying is get our house in order and invest in people and estates I'd review the e...

Still the wrong way around, sort out stockplies, spares, people, estates, wages then work out how much stuff we can buy.

As I said a few weeks ago I really don't see what is so F-in hard NAVY 1 x CSG = 1 x Carrier ,1 x SSN , 2 x Type 45 , 2 x type 23/26 , 2 x Tankers , 1 x SSS 2 x LRG's = 1 x LPD or ASS , 1 x Bay 1 x Escort 4 x Patrol groups = 1 x Type 31 and 2 x Rivers ( Home , North Atlantic , South Atlantic , Indi...

Things improve by scaling back commitments and focusing on specific priorities that’s means scaling back in some areas. Sounds good but what you proposing to cut? The UK needs 12 SSNs, without additional funding where is the money for extra 5 SSNs coming from? The UK needs 24 escorts, where is the ...

There's not enough people, neither service can man the whole force on their own right now.

'Transferring' the aircraft solves nothing.

Bring Deeps wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023, 07:36
we won't be deploying 20 jets anytime soon, if ever.

I think in terms of manpower, the report mentioned 12 people leaving the ship from 617 Sqn. None were replaced, that alone tells the reader how tight things are.

At US manning levels 20 a/c would need about 500 people.

Anyone struggling with very long official report should read this.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1690 ... 25408.html

A shorter version highlighting various issues.

I think you answered your own question.

Interesting that there was conflict between those in charge of the csg and the sqns.

A surge rate of flying was considered to be the norm for them rather than the exceptional.

14 people flown straight from ph2 training to an exercise. Not heard of anything like that before.

I've had a quick scim read, usually trends. Shows how many more people you need when onboard vs when on an airbase. Probably too long for most to read, however it paints a picture of how bad manning levels are. Anyone who is still delusional to think in terms of deploying 20 F35s only needs to have ...

Better structured realtionships between industry, the services and DE&S might help.

Some work well, some are awful. Including between services and DE&S, although perhaps that's just my experience.

Certainly the RAF appears to have so far treated the A400s a bit like an unwanted step-child.. If you compare the progress of operationalizing it's full capabilities and general activity to France and Germany, the UK has been quite a bit slower in getting stuff like parachuting and air drop task li...

We just need better serviceability from them. Is it the usual failure to purchase enough spares that is the issue? Or is it certain components that are failing/wearing earlier than expected? Or delays in production of spares and their dispatch to the user? Yes the usual issues plus some airbus spec...

We just need better serviceability from them.

You realise that everything nowadays (and in the future) is composite? Unless you don't want anyone to buy anything designed after the 1970's ever again :lol: And just out of curiosity, how do you know how fragile the 149 or 175 are? Because they are composite, just ask anyone who had to use Blackh...

Spot on job for SGF.

I get personnel issues can be difficult to follow, but here is the jump out issue.

RN/RM intake -19.7% outlow +16.4%
Army intake -27.2% outflow +8%
RAF intake -16.3% outflow +39%

Figures like that carry on, equipment is the least of your issues.