If I was too put money on it I’d say they’ll be looking at something that’ll be roughly 300-310m in length 75m beam coming in at 80,000t odd 70 odd aircraft 2 EMAL CATS Rumors i heard talk about 3 EMALS and just slightly larger then QEC. I think it's inevitable they aim for the higher end. There is...

A kind reminder, please don't quote posts with large/lots of images.

Violent agreement? I like to think of it more as "two pints deep loud pub volume" discussion.

Bear in mind, a ship being able to do ASW or AAW when it's not its biggest role doesn't mean that its giving up its primary role. A T45 having some ASROC, or a T26 having some longer ranged missiles and a better radar does not damage their main role. As I see it, every main ship should have some for...

So if Type 31 was to come into service fitted as it is and have a sonar 8 x AShM plus 12 to 24 CAMM added it would a credible warship as a 5" gun is does not make a escort as shown by the US FFGX opting for the 57mm. Also it has been shown that Type 31 can fit 2 Phalanx one each side of the re...

The MoD has stated that there will be no overland role for the P-8 as the fleet will be purely concentrating on its maritime role and isn't big enough to do both. Indeed, but unfortunately it'll be good luck getting Boris to not claim it anyway. 95% of the population don't follow the specifics like...

but there are people here who say T-31 will be running around doing nothing important and that a OPV can do its job which is bollocks The Type 31 cannot engage in frontline combat. It simply is not capable of it. If it cannot be in a role where it might get shot at, then its only role is to conduct...

I agree escorts of RN is too few, but WHEN talking about world trend as saying "escorts gets larger", it must be paired with the fact that "AND decrease in number". But not anywhere near the rate of the Royal Navy's decreases for any serious navies out there, since they now have...

I'll still never understand why people keep pushing this "Type 26 are cruisers" narrative. 1) Escorts got larger. That's globally a trend. Nothing special for RN. 2) What your "type" is named doesn't matter a single jot. There is no such thing as a global standard of what counts ...

I am at the front of queue when it comes to wanting more but until we stop running round scared we might lose more T-26's if we make T-31 the best it can be then we are dead in the water. Plus weather you like it or not we can 'not afford 5 Type 26's paddling around waving a flag False argument. No...

AKA - "It's okay we have this thing to replace it, we are investing in our armed forces blah blah blah don't pay attention to that it doesn't replace it in the slightest blah blah work with allies."

However we are close to getting a good ship for global patrol duties as said T-31 has long legs good sea keeping plus the boat and helicopter capability of a frigate with the sensors and weapon fit plus crew numbers of a heavy corvette this allows us to say we are here and watching and if needed we...

https://www.janes.com/article/94360/uk- ... -from-2021

Another major capability to be lost with basically no intent to replace.

First RAPTOR, then Sentinel.

They just do not care.

Ah, there's that term again "more flexible".

MoD speak for "less capable".

Germany is unlikely to leave at this point. They have openly acknowledged that France gets the lead and the majority workshare/design influence already. It's assured by that Germany gets the lead and the majority workshare on the new MBT in return to make up for it.

It assuredly won't be. T31s purpose is to be claimed to be a first rate ship by the Government. No it is to allow it to be called a Frigate end of They could call it a battleship if they wanted. I'm not debating its "right" to be called this or that. I debate its lack of capability. But i...

It assuredly won't be. T31s purpose is to be claimed to be a first rate ship by the Government.

I've seen no such report yet.

Worth noting that Denmark projected the lifetime costs of F/A-18 as the highest out of it, F-35, and Typhoon. Short futures are definitely a thing.

Eh, I think it was more of a gag regarding the ridiculous price and the "geartard" tendencies of airsofters (much as I like the hobby) to go grabbing for that "milspec".

For those going to see her, best of times. I still remember the MP.net guys of this and its original topic getting me into the trip up to be on QE during her last few months of construction. Incredible experience. Hope to get on board one of them again to see them functioning, and maybe witness who ...

should spear 3 be part of the Wildcats weapons list even if the range drops to say 100 Km this could give a frigate a 200 to 400 km precision strike capability that fit nicely next to LMM and Sea Venom That is an angle I'd see as much more viable than a vertical launch version. Saves on VLS space, ...

Aethulwulf wrote:And my point is that there are credible future scenarios involving small scale operations where F35s or Typhoons or other fast jets will not be present / deployed.

Out of curiosity, such as?

I don't think it is as niche as you think... 1. A very large proportion of the world's population live within 100km or so of the coast. 2. When faced with the prospect of NGFS (or any sort of artillery), it's amazing how quickly any force learns to be mobile (or they hide within a civilian populati...

1: My major motivation (although just a guy in far east) comes from the fact that, SPEAR3 is primarily a land-attack missile. Thus, it will be produced in number, even 1000+. If the air-launched SPEAR3 and VL-SPEAR3 can share the majority of the airframe, it will be cheap. Mass production will neve...