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by Poiuytrewq
23 Mar 2024, 13:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: 23 Mar 2024, 08:50 What may last post means is less tasks, less programs to free cash to invest in specialists areas.
So based on current planning what are you proposing to cut?
by Poiuytrewq
23 Mar 2024, 07:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Spending it more wisely. For example. Do we need all the Ajax without an tracked AFV and a proper level of tanks to go with them in the armoured divisions. Do we need all the numbers of turretless Boxers for the mechanised divisions would some patria or similar be better for supporting roles. Compl...
by Poiuytrewq
23 Mar 2024, 07:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Much tighter priorities, fully resourced areas of competency more focus on defence. Many many others do it on much less than we do. Of course this is important but it won’t solve all of the problems in isolation. Blaming foreign exchange rates isn’t the only answer either. The SSNs, SSBNs and Tempe...
by Poiuytrewq
22 Mar 2024, 08:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 08:32 No it really isn’t. I do not get why people think more money is the answer all you get is the same issue’s amplified.
What’s the solution without spending more money?
by Poiuytrewq
22 Mar 2024, 08:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

….it is also insignificant but will soak up the funds for things that are significant and are needed to defend the UK. Such as…? Sorry, but no you do not need to do it all. Tier 1 capabilities is about having kit / abilities that are as good if not better in than the superpowers. Britain hasn’t bee...
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2024, 23:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I might quibble on some details but agree with overall plan if and only if we had the resources to do so. The difficulty is that how far / close to such a budget increase we can hope for. It why is it so hard to comment at the moment. With budget funds so tight it going to require a whole sequence ...
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2024, 09:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

….in the Nordics then a forward based brigade, and home a trained and scalable land army to defend the UK and it’s BOTs. Devils in the detail. IMO a proportionate and sustainable posture would be a permanently deployed British Army Artic/Mountain Brigade at Bardufoss and 3x Battlegroups split betwe...
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2024, 22:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

It goes back to what is the ambition. If the UK has turned its back the ability to deploy large scale ground forces globally, which I believe it has, then there is not requirement. So following that direction of travel results in what exactly? An army specialising in small groups of elite troops an...
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2024, 21:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I disagree, only operating a CVF in a LPH role isn’t rational, however this isn’t a CVFs only role, it can equally do carrier strike, sea control and a hybrid LHA (amphibious assault) role. If the shit hit the fan then both CVFs, one in carrier strike mode and the other in LPH mode is a fantastic c...
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2024, 11:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

…we are down to replacing the 3 Bay's and Argus…. I’m not sure it’s that simple. Given the rest of the fleet is being shredded to operate both CVFs concurrently what is being gained by doing so? Operating the second vessel as a LPH isn’t a rational argument so what is the second CVF actually achiev...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2024, 22:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Thank you. Your views are clear. So how do you see it working? • The T32 and MRSS remain unfunded. The steel needs to be cut if the first T32 in 2026 or the drumbeat is lost at Rosyth. • RN has no crew for the current active LPD. • RN has no spare crew for the 5x T32. • The RFA have only got the cr...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2024, 15:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

…there you get to the main issue. The funding issue is the same for all of current planning. As said, even the MRSS and T32 require an increase to 2.5% GDP to become reality. My main point is to suggest that a complete reassessment is made (as part of SDSR25) to ensure that current planning is stil...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2024, 00:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

There is no chance for either of those options, UK simply could not currently afford one 40k or two Juan Carlos LHD large enough to operate F-35B. It does not need them as there are already two carriers to provide air cover and support. Priority would probably be to get a 3rd Squadron of F-35B so t...
by Poiuytrewq
18 Mar 2024, 15:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

….I don't think UK will order 4 LHP/LHD, even 1 would be a miracle. IMO there are two ways forward here. 1. Build a single large 40,000t LHD to replace the Albions. Add a 12x F35 capability to enable a LHA role and rotate with the 2x CVFs ensuring permanent F35 availability. Clearly the current set...
by Poiuytrewq
18 Mar 2024, 14:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 5986
Views: 1501036
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

…..I think we need 60 in the past plus I am not looking for NMH to be fully marinized just to have a folding rotor head so it can be used if needed the same as Apache….. This is vital and the importance should not be underestimated. IMO the wisdom of the Wildcat AH1 is now highly questionable with ...
by Poiuytrewq
09 Mar 2024, 20:52
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Russia is struggling to recruit to fight a limited campaign in Ukraine, let’s not overdo it. That’s right now today. You can’t make planning assumptions on what you expect to happen next week. You also have to plan for the best and worse case scenarios and everything in between. 3 Divisions will be...
by Poiuytrewq
09 Mar 2024, 20:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1011
Views: 397932
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Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

SW1 wrote: 09 Mar 2024, 20:15 It didn’t look like all those flashes and bangs were sea ceptor but not sure what they were
It would be interesting to know as if it’s 2x sea ceptor per target, even for crude drones as 32x becomes 16x targets and there is no 57mm/40mm or Phalanx in reserve.
by Poiuytrewq
09 Mar 2024, 20:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1011
Views: 397932
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Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

How many were fired to down the 2 drones?

Five?
by Poiuytrewq
09 Mar 2024, 17:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

You are going to have to spell out how you see that working against a peer with possibly 5 million men at arms within 3 years. The rest of Europes armies are in a similar state to the U.K. so placing complete confidence there may be unwise at this stage. Much depends on a US contribution and that i...
by Poiuytrewq
09 Mar 2024, 13:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Those numbers include funding for Ukraine, reserve monies and also other factors that are being spun. It’s not a cut. There is just no additional funding. It will just be short term sticking plasters to keep the wheels turning until SDSR25. I’m not sure why everyone is acting so surprised. Forget m...
by Poiuytrewq
08 Mar 2024, 17:51
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

Why would anyone do that? They have different roles. Where do the Rangers fit in against a peer? 3rd Commando usually covered Arctic area. Should they carry on in that role? If the U.K. is to remain as the leading nation in the JEF region as our main land contribution to NATO why rely on a shrinkin...
by Poiuytrewq
08 Mar 2024, 16:02
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

So we are agreed then, by not increasing the defence budget it’s being cut in real terms and savings have to be made. Not really. See here. https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1766059626854769080 Agree the SDSR process is the wrong way round. The ambition should be set and then costed, if the ambi...
by Poiuytrewq
08 Mar 2024, 11:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1842
Views: 184133
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

That would be true if cuts weren’t needed to live within current budgets - it is not. I’m all for prioritisation and making the most of the money being spent, but the chancellor is playing a dangerous game of misdirection. The RDEL budget was always due to contract in 2024/2025. It’s nothing new. T...