So, I managed to predict the result.

If we discount the first French goal on a judge, third on Croatian defence and fourth on goalkeeper, it's 2-1 for Croatia.

SKB wrote:Halftime. 2-1. To France !

At least the numbers were right...

Forcasts gentlemen? 2-1 for Croatia

It might be possible to live with Russia, but if our Government had the same ideals as that of Russia The rest of the UK would have invaded Scotland when it demanded a referendum on independence after it had deployed the SAS to stir up trouble in the lowlands. Well, Soviet Union dissolved peacefull...

Would be a nice thing to have them ( especially Wedgetail ) equipped for AAR, if possible probe and drogue...

South Vietnamese had also American promises once... Lack of strategic vision: the (big) army was trained and equipped for a COIN fight. NVA rolled out the tanks, and the whole thing collapsed like a deck of cards - Mr. Jenkins, in The Guardian, proposes we do the same :crazy: And how exactly curren...

As I Said, all these countries had bad experiences with Russia/SU. It's logical that I have excluded 1991, since that's the year these countries achieved their independence/SU collapsed. You might think that I appologise Russia here, but I'm not. Pure realpolitik. Also, Soviet Union is dead for 27 y...

On the other hand, IMHO they are over exaggerating the danger from Russia today, a I see what you're getting at, although I think them witnessing their strongest neighbour invading and capturing territory from two countries near them is more than enough to provoke alarm. Well, near and far are rela...

truth is allways a two way street What does that mean in this context? That various Easter european countries like Poland, Baltic countries, Czech Republic etc. indeed had a lot of negative historical experiences with Russia/Soviet Union, so their apprehension about today's Russia is somewhat under...

Funny how they always go for the "NATO advanced east!" like it wasn't because of a very volatile, militaristic, and aggressive nation in the east that scared the countries it had abused and committed genocide upon into wanting protection. Remarkable how that point is usually forgotten by ...

If anyone was watching the defence committee meeting today on future ASM. They said the F-35 is going to get the future joint UK-French ASM. So we are going to have to wait until the 2030s until we have dedicated air-launched ASM... Also seems that the P8 is not getting Harpoons, I think we might b...

England was better first halftime, Croatia better after that.

So, expectations for tonight? It's an even money IMHO...

Caribbean wrote:

abc123 wrote:Have you signed it?

Yes - it's now at 62 votes - pretty pathetic really

Yep.

Caribbean wrote:Some guy called Joseph Hanlon-Penny. Not me, if you are asking that.

Have you signed it?

Meh, just Argentinean wet dreams and fantasies. They can't operate their diesel boats safely, but they of course can nuclear?

Croatia didn't show much of a game (except against Argentina after the goal), but they do have a devil's luck and a few individuals that can decide the game in any moment. So, that should be interesting to watch.

Yes it is great to sink Billions of Government funds into your national defence industries, the issue is that Government funding is finite so other areas will take a hit and if it result is a bespoke platform nobody else wants mainly due to price, unless the Government again spends a large amount s...

Caribbean wrote:Petition started to raise defence spending to 3%. Currently standing at a magnificent 58 votes.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/222613

Who started it?

Lord Jim wrote:The French mentality and their sense of pride means they will sink billions into a next gen F-35 competitor even if only they and the Germans ever use it. They cannot do anything else.

Also, better to sink billions into their own ecomomy, than in the US one...

NickC wrote:INS Ranvir of Indian Navy launching a BrahMos Missile 30th June 2018 from its 8-cell Larsen & Tourbo UVLM VLS Module, INS Ranivir is the fourth of the five 5,000 ton 1980's Rajput class destroyers.

Luckily, the RN has no need for such useless weapons...

Penalties- prognosis?

http://www.janes.com/article/81494/analysis-will-farnborough-be-the-launchpad-for-the-uk-s-combat-air-strategy Again, it's all "allegedly" and "reportedly", but if they honestly need convincing in any way then they clearly either ignorant beyond belief in their role, or willfull...

If BAE were still nationalised, then maybe we'd be getting 13. Or more. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Very good. I'm against state-owned industry as a rule, but if the French can have nationalised DCNS ( and getting FREMMs and Belhorra under normal prices and normally armed ) and still have DCNS being a bit prof...

Hence, my line at the start of this entire thing. The Hunter class is what the City class ought to be. it's the exact same ship, it has all the same ASW predigree (more in fact, owing to it having LWT as well) only with vastly improved air defence (CEAFAR, Aegis, SM-2) and as a result, is future pr...