capable of carrying MALE and other UAV drones That is an entirely different class in terms of affordability and maintainability. Adding a MALE drone capabilities add a massive new layer of complexity, making the ship much more intensive to run, precluding forward basing, and will end up with less d...

S2087 has a very long history, already, first introduced on 2004. If RN were to use it until 2050, it is 45 years of operation. It's already received a massive upgrade in service. But it will probably end up like Triggers Broom.... The fact that we and others still regard it as the best out there i...

The assumption is it’s for forward basing, maritime security and raiding / small ops with ability to come together for a larger op. Forward basing is consistently mentioned for the Future Command Force, alongside strike groups. It reads to me like the Navy want to be constantly deploying task group...

Everyone is still guessing what the FCF is for. The assumption is it’s for forward basing, maritime security and raiding / small ops with ability to come together for a larger op. However, what the expected duration of said op and the equipment expected to be carried will be key to what ships are n...

I think the RN has done well with Type 31 if it gets the MK-41's so they could work away at getting what they want in terms of the amphib fleet

As said before if FCF is right then we will end up with 8 x LSU's of 250 troops each one made up of 1 x strike company plus supporting units from across 3 Cdo Bge this allows 1 x high readiness , 1 x low readiness , 1 x training , 1 x resting in both LRG-N&S Each of these LSU's will be the same ...

new guy wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 15:49

sol wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 14:26 Warrior is getting a rear camera

for 55k per vehicle.

On the Plus side we still have 359 Warriors to put them on

A Canberra type assault ship is the high end approach to the future amphibious capability. I worry the high end option is undeliverable at the same time as trying to expand the carrier force, expand the submarine service, and expand the escort fleet. I'm also concerned the ideal spot for operating ...

So with this said a new 225 bu 43 meter Ocean class with a angled fight deck with forward side lift and rear centre lift with Point class rear vehicle ramps would be a good ship It would but in my IMO it mush be a LHD. Ocean’s layout is great but the hull shape is all wrong for conversion to a LHD....

So when looking around at layouts from the past Hermes R12 before the ramp is a nice size and layout 225 by 43 meters with angled flight deck which allows for a Side lift at the front of the angled runway. Also if when using MALE drones we are going back to fixed wing conventional landing using a an...

I always thought a new Ocean class design LPH 210 meters by 40 meters with the front of the flight deck squared off 2 x side lifts and a Point class style rear end ramps could work well and could be build for say 500 to 600 miilion a pop Considering Ocean's success and modest build cost this is def...

The Australians withdrew their naval presence int he Middle East 3 years ago they have no interest in returning, there interests are in the island chains immediately to their north the Philippine sea, China sea and eastern Indian Ocean, They aren’t going back to Oman. New Zealand and Canada even le...

I always thought a new Ocean class design LPH 210 meters by 40 meters with the front of the flight deck squared off 2 x side lifts and a Point class style rear end ramps could work well and could be build for say 500 to 600 miilion a pop For me it is all about MALE drones these ships could operate a...

As I have said before NATO Europe (not including the US and Canada ) has 8 x SSBN's 13 x SSN's 51 x SSK's 3 x Fleet carriers 1 x Light carrier 6 x LHD's ( of which 3 x can operate Fast Jets ) 9 x LPD's 8 x LST's 125 x Escorts 80 x Corvettes & OPVs I have also said in the past that CANZUK Battle...

I certainly agree that we can't afford the 5*T31B2 / T31, both in terms of current lack of budget available to build them, and the current lack crew to man them. So I think 24 escorts is an unlikely pipedream for this decade - unlikely before mid 2030s if not longer. If RN is going to shred the Amp...

The only reason I say the Indo-Pacific is this would be the main area outside of Europe bar say South America which would be a US lead show I also say let someone else lead due to the fact we really have one Divisional HQ which is needed for the JEF Where would you put the Middle East and Africa? I...

For me the UK should be pushing the CANZUK defence packed in the Indo-Pacific and yes we should be looking at being able to stand up a Division but it should be lead by Australia Why just Indo-Pacific? Why not as the cornerstone of the UKs land scale land ambition outside of Europe? Tbh - I have no...

Without getting into the detail, as I think the future army form has to be able to be communicated in a few sentences, below is what I think the Army should be scaling to deliver within one month and sustain at any point in time. - Ability to deploy globally a combined (UK, Canada, Australia and Ne...

I think we’ve been round what I wouldn’t do going fwd without needing to go round it again . How we do capital allocation is a gd question and what is funded as a result balance or bias. Agreed, covering old ground is tedious. Reducing tasks further from what I outlined is cutting gone too far. It ...

They’ve been “better managing” the budget for decades with little sign of much difference to be honest. We have to accept we cut our cloth accordingly until we do things won’t improve. Completely agree. My point is if funding can be secured for the T32 program (~£2.5bn) and the Amphibious replaceme...

Why will the type 31 need more crew as I keep saying the IH class a full fat AAW frigate has a crew of 118 not including the aircrew Can proper damage control be achieved on a 138m Frigate with less than 118 crew! Just my opinion but I am expecting the allocation to be around 130 plus specialists f...

Also the RN are nursing the T-23's the end no need to double crew them it would only kill them off quicker the fact is at this time with these ships we don't need more crew teams as there are no ships to put them on

The 2 Echos specialist's are now going to RFA Proteus as you say the remaining Hunt and Sandown crews will work up on new MCM kit as it comes on line All helicopter Bobs are specialist crews in this term As the MCM and hydrographic will be in teams these teams can work from host ships weather that i...

Yes but this not the ships crew. the ships crew is the ships crew the number of crew needed to fight the ship and control any damage the specialist teams will move on and off the ship as needed weather this is MCM , EMF , helicopter , UAV's , and so on these people come from other parts of the Navy...

what I mean is the the model that Babcock put out of a AH-140 with missions bays Core is core but I think the point that is often missed is that core is a baseline that will always be added too. The modular and off-board systems will require specialists to operate them plus an EMF to utilise them w...