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by SW1
06 Dec 2023, 19:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Labour at present seems to indicate there defence strategy will concentrate more on natos eastern front and a bigger army. That doesn’t require a lot of ships. There will be many forces pulling on the budget regardless off its size. Government strategy will dictate where the budget is spent to supp...
by SW1
06 Dec 2023, 16:39
Forum: Defence Elsewhere
Topic: USA Armed Forces
Replies: 2091
Views: 111826
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Re: USA Armed Forces

by SW1
06 Dec 2023, 10:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Labour at present seems to indicate there defence strategy will concentrate more on natos eastern front and a bigger army. That doesn’t require a lot of ships. There will be many forces pulling on the budget regardless off its size. Government strategy will dictate where the budget is spent to supp...
by SW1
06 Dec 2023, 08:35
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 4067
Views: 985234
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Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/japan-britain-and-italy-to-establish-new-organisation-to-develop-jet-fighter-sources?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_keyword=dlvr.it TOKYO - Japan, Britain and Italy will sign a treaty in Tokyo next week to establish a joint organisation and...
by SW1
05 Dec 2023, 23:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Labour at present seems to indicate there defence strategy will concentrate more on natos eastern front and a bigger army. That doesn’t require a lot of ships. There will be many forces pulling on the budget regardless off its size. Government strategy will dictate where the budget is spent to suppo...
by SW1
05 Dec 2023, 23:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Is that confirmed? If Westminster goes, the ASW skills and equipment should be transferred to one of the upgraded GP variants. Keeping 8 sub hunting frigates going should be essential, and if it means cannibalising the others then so be it! It's a sad state when 8 frigates sounds ambitious... https...
by SW1
05 Dec 2023, 14:52
Forum: Deployments
Topic: Caribbean
Replies: 94
Views: 10613
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Re: Caribbean




The lesson from Ukraine of course is you establish a presence to show you’re interested in the outcome before conflict breaks out to ensure it doesn’t, provided your being asked to help of course.
by SW1
05 Dec 2023, 09:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1931
Views: 253948
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

What radical change? Well one area and it is not all within the MoDs control. There is huge tax issues right around the 50k-60k and 100k-120k pay areas if people have kids. Effective tax rates particularly at the lower band will be astronomical they’ll jump from an effective tax rate of about 40% t...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 23:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Independently, reduction in ASW frigates’ number must be compensated until all T26 comes in. My proposal is, as already said, early purchase of Merlin “replacements”. A few MQ9BASW on CVF, ASW kits for ARCIMS usvs, are the candidates. I think ordering 3-6 more new Merlin ASW will be another option....
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 21:17
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1931
Views: 253948
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

They’ve blown there budget Not really, it’s just underfunded. A lot of the projects were never actually funded in the first place so to add it all together and say there is a black hole in the budget is bonkers…they were never included in the budget. Much of it was/is aspirational. IMO it shows fou...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 19:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

1: RN is getting to renew their escort fleet. Soon, with new 5 T31 and 8 T26 coming, and T45 PIP ending, I understand the "manned" escort number will rise from 10 to 14, which is great . It is great but it won’t be quick and more T23’s will become beyond economical repair before the offic...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 13:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1931
Views: 253948
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

They’ve blown there budget Not really, it’s just underfunded. A lot of the projects were never actually funded in the first place so to add it all together and say there is a black hole in the budget is bonkers…they were never included in the budget. Much of it was/is aspirational. IMO it shows fou...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 11:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The material state of the escort fleet is not good. That has been the case for over 10 years now, glacial inaction has been the default position and we’ve bluffed it out with opvs. Its as clear as day here. https://twitter.com/TBrit90/status/1731440548274180569 Between, TAPS, Kipion, the JEF task f...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 08:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

We are providing an appropriate level for assistance. Not convinced but what else can RN put together right now? The cupboard is bare. You provide the escorts to stop things becoming a shooting war too. We are going to be conducting and leading patrols near to Russian territory we don’t send hawks ...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 08:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1931
Views: 253948
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

As if by coincidence despite a 19% increase in the equipment budget https://twitter.com/naoorguk/status/1731576570370834509?s=46&t=DDtfAMHAP_nISrZTkNlgBA They’ve blown there budget The MoD acknowledges that its Equipment Plan for 2023–2033 is unaffordable, with forecast costs exceeding its curre...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 08:18
Forum: Deployments
Topic: Caribbean
Replies: 94
Views: 10613
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Re: Caribbean

Venezuela’s naval parade in mid July showcasing its new Iranian delivered missile boats may have more meaning in this context. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-67610200 Venezuelans have voted overwhelmingly in favour of claiming a disputed oil-rich territory long controlled by neighbou...
by SW1
04 Dec 2023, 08:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

HMS Lancaster is there too, so that is two escorts either in or near the region. There is a significant number of international escorts in various groups in this region too. Is that enough or is that just what is available. It’s defence down to a budget again. This constant relying on allies is bec...
by SW1
03 Dec 2023, 22:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Isn't Diamond already on her way? In the Baltic there is the danger of a far greater economic damage via pipelines and undersea cables than a few rockets shot at the odd freighter\tanker. How many escorts do the countries that surround the Baltic actually have? • What exactly are two RN Frigates go...
by SW1
03 Dec 2023, 21:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion



Chronology of todays events.

As the years role one we are going to find out why the escort its connections with maritime security and freedom of movement/information is the priority issue at sea.
by SW1
03 Dec 2023, 12:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So the UK Baltic deployment starting soon will have 2 x frigates , 2 x OPV's , 2 x MCM and a Bay class this will mean just one or no OPV's in UK waters https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-naval-task-force-to-deploy-to-baltic-area/ “The contingent will depart in early December to join other ship...
by SW1
03 Dec 2023, 11:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

@SW1, I saw you replied to my post but it’s gone? It is couldn’t be bothered going round this you on this any longer. If you think this extremely limited vessel 3 of which the French built and transferred the one already built for €398m to Argentina could be built in the uk for £100m for the RN and...
by SW1
03 Dec 2023, 10:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

@SW1, I saw you replied to my post but it’s gone? It is couldn’t be bothered going round this you on this any longer. If you think this extremely limited vessel 3 of which the French built and transferred the one already built for €398m to Argentina could be built in the uk for £100m for the RN and...
by SW1
02 Dec 2023, 19:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think if that’s the level of ambition for such a ship I see next to no role in the RN for it beyond possible the replace the three rivers in uk waters. Yet more nonsense. With its range / endurance, efficiency, ability to launch large rhibs/USVs through its dual stern ramp, ability to accommodate...
by SW1
02 Dec 2023, 16:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Ok then this revolutionary opv churned out from this opv factory. Who making this commitment from industry and where? What does this £100m opv look like eg its size, its sensors, its aviation capabilities its range, its armaments and what roles and tasks is it going to do for the Royal Navy. Just s...
by SW1
02 Dec 2023, 12:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19399
Views: 9723509
United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Ok then this revolutionary opv churned out from this opv factory. Who making this commitment from industry and where? What does this £100m opv look like eg its size, its sensors, its aviation capabilities its range, its armaments and what roles and tasks is it going to do for the Royal Navy. Just s...