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by Tempest414
09 Jul 2023, 17:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I always thought a new Ocean class design LPH 210 meters by 40 meters with the front of the flight deck squared off 2 x side lifts and a Point class style rear end ramps could work well and could be build for say 500 to 600 miilion a pop Considering Ocean's success and modest build cost this is def...
by Tempest414
09 Jul 2023, 12:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Australians withdrew their naval presence int he Middle East 3 years ago they have no interest in returning, there interests are in the island chains immediately to their north the Philippine sea, China sea and eastern Indian Ocean, They aren’t going back to Oman. New Zealand and Canada even le...
by Tempest414
09 Jul 2023, 11:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I always thought a new Ocean class design LPH 210 meters by 40 meters with the front of the flight deck squared off 2 x side lifts and a Point class style rear end ramps could work well and could be build for say 500 to 600 miilion a pop For me it is all about MALE drones these ships could operate a...
by Tempest414
09 Jul 2023, 10:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As I have said before NATO Europe (not including the US and Canada ) has 8 x SSBN's 13 x SSN's 51 x SSK's 3 x Fleet carriers 1 x Light carrier 6 x LHD's ( of which 3 x can operate Fast Jets ) 9 x LPD's 8 x LST's 125 x Escorts 80 x Corvettes & OPVs I have also said in the past that CANZUK Battle...
by Tempest414
08 Jul 2023, 09:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I certainly agree that we can't afford the 5*T31B2 / T31, both in terms of current lack of budget available to build them, and the current lack crew to man them. So I think 24 escorts is an unlikely pipedream for this decade - unlikely before mid 2030s if not longer. If RN is going to shred the Amp...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 16:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The future form of the Army
Replies: 665
Views: 153157
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Re: The future form of the Army

The only reason I say the Indo-Pacific is this would be the main area outside of Europe bar say South America which would be a US lead show I also say let someone else lead due to the fact we really have one Divisional HQ which is needed for the JEF Where would you put the Middle East and Africa? I...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 14:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The future form of the Army
Replies: 665
Views: 153157
France

Re: The future form of the Army

For me the UK should be pushing the CANZUK defence packed in the Indo-Pacific and yes we should be looking at being able to stand up a Division but it should be lead by Australia Why just Indo-Pacific? Why not as the cornerstone of the UKs land scale land ambition outside of Europe? Tbh - I have no...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 12:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The future form of the Army
Replies: 665
Views: 153157
France

Re: The future form of the Army

Without getting into the detail, as I think the future army form has to be able to be communicated in a few sentences, below is what I think the Army should be scaling to deliver within one month and sustain at any point in time. - Ability to deploy globally a combined (UK, Canada, Australia and Ne...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 11:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I think we’ve been round what I wouldn’t do going fwd without needing to go round it again . How we do capital allocation is a gd question and what is funded as a result balance or bias. Agreed, covering old ground is tedious. Reducing tasks further from what I outlined is cutting gone too far. It ...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 11:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

They’ve been “better managing” the budget for decades with little sign of much difference to be honest. We have to accept we cut our cloth accordingly until we do things won’t improve. Completely agree. My point is if funding can be secured for the T32 program (~£2.5bn) and the Amphibious replaceme...
by Tempest414
07 Jul 2023, 10:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Why will the type 31 need more crew as I keep saying the IH class a full fat AAW frigate has a crew of 118 not including the aircrew Can proper damage control be achieved on a 138m Frigate with less than 118 crew! Just my opinion but I am expecting the allocation to be around 130 plus specialists f...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 16:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Also the RN are nursing the T-23's the end no need to double crew them it would only kill them off quicker the fact is at this time with these ships we don't need more crew teams as there are no ships to put them on
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 16:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The 2 Echos specialist's are now going to RFA Proteus as you say the remaining Hunt and Sandown crews will work up on new MCM kit as it comes on line All helicopter Bobs are specialist crews in this term As the MCM and hydrographic will be in teams these teams can work from host ships weather that i...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 11:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Yes but this not the ships crew. the ships crew is the ships crew the number of crew needed to fight the ship and control any damage the specialist teams will move on and off the ship as needed weather this is MCM , EMF , helicopter , UAV's , and so on these people come from other parts of the Navy...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 11:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

what I mean is the the model that Babcock put out of a AH-140 with missions bays Core is core but I think the point that is often missed is that core is a baseline that will always be added too. The modular and off-board systems will require specialists to operate them plus an EMF to utilise them w...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 10:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

What the Navy needs to workout is how can it support everything from supporting 2 x LSU's of 250 troops full time all the way to supporting a re-enforced Brigade insertion

and to be clear a re-enforced Brigade would be a Army mechanised brigade re-enforced with a Commando Battalion battle group
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 10:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote: 06 Jul 2023, 10:46
Tempest414 wrote: 06 Jul 2023, 10:44 But you still have not told me why more crew will be needed for a AH-140 based T-32 over a T-31
Do you mean a T31 Batch 2?
what I mean is the the model that Babcock put out of a AH-140 with missions bays
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 10:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Why will the type 31 need more crew as I keep saying the IH class a full fat AAW frigate has a crew of 118 not including the aircrew Can proper damage control be achieved on a 138m Frigate with less than 118 crew! Just my opinion but I am expecting the allocation to be around 130 plus specialists f...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 10:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Also the talk of only 11 crews that is all that is needed at this time one type 23 is beyond repair three are in deep maintenance/ Life ex the rest are being nursed to there replacements come on line Type 45 three are working 2 are in PIP one in deep maintenance and again I would not be surprised if...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 09:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19330
Views: 9712946
France

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Fantasy yes, but a good illustration that manning is a real factor regardless of how much money is spent on new platforms. As an illustration of this ,CDS told defence select committee this week that the RAF didn’t need any more A400M aircraft, they just needed better availability. Regardless of th...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 08:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

For the next decade yes there after we need 1 or 2 LHD's as well as the carriers As for the Merlin's we 28 HC-4 with 25 in service I believe if so we could at this time have 4 dedicated to each Carrier and 4 to RFA Argus = 12 leaving 14 for UK based maintenance and training I’m told we only have ~1...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 08:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Haven’t heard anything recently, but in the past the open discussion was that as both LPDs haven’t been worked hard (in and out of reserve) it’s likely they could last longer, perhaps late 2030s. Whilst there were noises that the maintenance in reserve hadn’t been the best (longer reactivation time...
by Tempest414
06 Jul 2023, 08:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

For the next decade yes there after we need 1 or 2 LHD's as well as the carriers As for the Merlin's we 28 HC-4 with 25 in service I believe if so we could at this time have 4 dedicated to each Carrier and 4 to RFA Argus = 12 leaving 14 for UK based maintenance and training I’m told we only have ~1...
by Tempest414
05 Jul 2023, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 6128
Views: 1861532
France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Interesting that clear distinction between some who try to reflect the (admittedly very slender) limited details that we know about FCF in their proposals. And some that choose to ignore those limited details of FCF to fit in with their own viewpoint(s). Can you widen this out a bit like what do yo...
by Tempest414
05 Jul 2023, 14:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The future form of the Army
Replies: 665
Views: 153157
France

Re: The future form of the Army

I have been thinking about the Gurkha's as said at this time we have 4000 and with what has been said about recruitment and retention and if we could would growing the Gurkha's to 10,000 be a good move with 10,000 we could have 1 x Light recce strike battalion 3 x Infantry battalions 2 x Artillery r...