Listened to Mrs. May just now........"Trexbi Smena Trexbi"

Frankly she seems scared to me......I doubt she will get "Article 50" through Westminster. (Supreme Court willing)

I wonder which side will start building artificial islands first?

I recon Sinn Féin is looking to squeeze the DUP (pro Brexit) voters over to UUP (anti Brexit) and that with a reduced number of Assembly Members this time they might get rid of some of the more antediluvian Loyalists.

marktigger wrote:So HMS Tyne didn't escort the Alexander Shablin and The Minsk through the English Channel in september 2016?

You're correct Mark I remebered it myself.....http://navaltoday.com/2016/09/08/hms-ty ... n-a-month/

The costs are really incredible.......If you're looking for exports don't bother asking Ireland. (though we might take the Type1s if they are cheap) We'll stick with Appledore I think. We could buy 12 P60s for that sort of cash.

There is "talk" of replacing the P40s with "something similar" with notional anti-sub/mines capability (I'd prefer the Rivers) and a larger vessel, probably something similar to a Damen Crossover Logistics........If the Rivers were bought there might be a chance of going directly...

Didn't realise that Mark......pity, they would be ideal for INS.....The P40s are really only suitable for Costal patrol and I think EEZ patrol will become much more "interesting" over the next 5 years.

Ta Donald. I like the Rivers too....If they go for sale I'd like the INS to go for them (at the right price) as replacements for the P40s and then look for a new larger type as replacement for LE Deirdre. ......In fact both types exercised together recently http://navaltoday.com/2016/10/10/hms-sever...

Brexit revives territorial dispute over Lough Foyle between UK and Ireland.......http://coastmonkey.ie/news/brexit-fallout-lough-foyle/

You seem to be a fan of the Rivers ......You make a good case.
What is to be the fate of the Batch1 Rivers do you think?

Well Sturgeon is struggling in Scotland a lot of people would like her out. There are big problems there but all she can do is spout political hatred. she isn't struggling in Scotland, Labour and the Lib Dems are the strugglers up there, i saw a poll last week Labour are now down to 15% and SNP are...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/linda-mcmahon-donald-trump-cabinet-wwe-president-elect-a7415536.html seriously? I suspect Trump is going to want people round him from the world he knows preferably who aren't unknowns in the wider world. Who aren't from the political class. They may bring i...

I didn't care for the new format of TD myself. Shame it's gome though.

Military aspects of an independent Scotland raise interesting questions. I'm sure the "average" Scot is as interested in the armed forces as the "average" UK citizen. Gabrielles' post above that "Scotland could be given some Typhoon tranche 1, withdrawn armoured vehicles, th...

The conference season isn't quite concluded yet....http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-sco ... s-37634338

Irish in Congo....

You should look up Greenland-Denmark-Eu. Anything is possible. Brexit can mean Anything..... apparently.

Interesting commentary.......Speaking (as an outsider again) it appears to me that the "democratic demand" for a referrendum being in a manifesto is fair enough. But what percentage of the population actually voted Tory?.... (FPTP is hardly an exemplar of Democracy) Similarly one should th...

Hi Demereifield. Interesting comments ...thanks. I am an EU citizen (like yourself I presume so we're all insiders then). The referrendum was not called in response to any "democratic" demand from the people or UKIP for one (sorry) I agree we thought we were joining the EEC not a federal s...

Hopefully the EU Superstate is dead Mark.....Pity the UK didn't do more from the inside though. I never worry too much about being made to look "stupid" either. Having been forced to bail out European banks and the Euro a few years ago (we paid 42% of the total cost) the Irish are not very...

Looking at Brexit from the outside it appears to me that the referrendum was called primarily to prevent a "Palace Coup" within the Tory party. Something it failed miserably to achieve. It was a "brave" vote on the whole but the law of unintended consequences will produce a secon...

The new Batch of Rivers look good enough too Mark......The P60s are "improved" P50s optimised for patroling the north Atlantic in winter. They are all as "fighty" as was thought appropriate and the INS seems happy enough to send them to the Med. They are not designed to defeat Ch...

Well they do look nice.....Here's a picture....... L.É. James Joyce which has been tasked to continue humanitarian duties in the Mediterranean made a rendezvous with L.É. Roisin, east of Gibraltar.

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but it seems the Batch 1 Rivers are scheduled for the chop....https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-clyde-replaced

L.E. William Butler Yeates arrives home at Naval Base.