They'll either wise up or wipe each other out, either way I won't care TBH. We care, because fighting in the middle-east sends unstoppable waves of refugees at our borders which drains our finances and destroys our cultures. What worries me is the reaction of Israel that is uncontrollable, with pow...

A good spot - first time I have seen a graphic of a Merlin in the mission bay. Implies you could carry two in the ASW role and still have room for at least 2 x RHIBs as well ? "The T26 GCS Flexible Mission Bay can accommodate four 12-metre boats for boarding operations for the insertion of Roy...

The biggest risk is a confrontation between Hezbollah, so Iran and Israel Israel and Iran have been fighting each other through Hezbollah for a long time. Nothing new there. Israel will keep bombing Hezbollah and Iran will do nothing directly in return. Only thing I could see happening is Syria ret...

I want to see what your thoughts are on what is going on in Syria. Syria has to be one of the most complicated and messy conflicts in modern history. We have the Syrian Government backed up by Russia and Iran fighting the FSA, who are backed up by Turkey, who are attacking the Kurds, who are backed ...

ArmChairCivvy wrote:He added: "If the media reports are correct I am afraid that the UK position today is based on pure illusion."

Tusk likes to crap talk without the full details. Lets wait till we actually announce our position first... Then he can crap talk with the full details.

Any why not? There's nothing bad in that... It cost Oman £400m for 3 of them, £133m each. It is great news since the Leander is slightly enlarged mostly to give it a mission bay which is a scaled down version of the type 26s, and they are getting most of their armament free from the type 23. They w...

matt00773 wrote:There is space on Type 45 to incorporate additional VLS

Heres to hoping that the latest review decides we need to fund BMD.

That is the little bit of hope I have left for the project; the £250m is for the vehicle, with the combat systems to be government furnished later. As well, I think we brought all new equipment for the first three type 26s to stop there been issues with needing the equipment off the type 23s before...

Speaking of CAMM. We see the type 23 system with a bubble, even though CAMM has always been shown off as having a hatch on it. The type 26 for example shows this. Here are MBDA from 2-3 years ago showing the type 23 been retrofitted with CAMM, the first image is removing sea wolf, the second is repl...

RetroSicotte wrote:I am not certain if quadpacked CAMM is actually confirmed to be getting integrated yet. At most I've seen some testing, no certification.

True, but it is a possible option if we are willing.

2HeadsBetter wrote:Thanks benny14 for those images of Type 26. May I ask where they came from?

A BAE video on the type 26 from about 6 months ago.

12x CAMM really isn't a lot The strike-length Mk.41 could either quad pack CAMM or use CAMM cells instead. That would give us 20x CAMM with the latter option and if I understand correctly that CAMM can be quad packed in to Mk.41 then that would give us a total of 44x CAMM with that option, with the...

Hoorayy another boat the RN dont need. To be fair, we do actually need offshore patrol vessels as our countries border force is laughable with a mere 5 cutters to patrol one of the largest coastlines in Europe. The rivers do actually fill a rather large gap in our countries national security. The p...

I suppose being out of proper armoured warfare for so long, over 25 years, there is a lot the British Army is going to have to relearn. Even in the Gulf/Iraq wars I dont think that there was ever more than a couple incidents where we used vehicle mounted anti-tank weapons. Most of the fight was air...

Thanks Benny. I did wonder if those were silos behind the ASM canisters. Whatever they are they don't appear to be the same mushroom shaped silos used for CAMM on the T23s and in the two boxes behind the gun in the other Leander images The ones shown on the middle of the type 31 do very much so loo...

8? Surely not. They are essentially free (just need transferring over from the T23s; although we don't know how they would be valued/costed when included in the project). Are there other schematics available? Maybe it's two banks of 5 behind the gun (with the gun obscuring the middle 2?) or maybe t...

"Anti Submarine Key" Could that mean that CL and BAE believe that due to the competing designs all having a similar weapons fit and probably built with similar hull standards, whoever provides a genuine ASW capability for the £250m gets the order? We now have indications from both teams t...

This is the Austin Powers class frigate for consideration as Type 31e https://twitter.com/navylookout/status/966247869740089344 Hard to tell if it has CAMM behind the main gun as shown on the previous design. Looks like alot less room on the front with this version, although I can still kind of mak...

Sunk at Narvik wrote:Doesn't surprise me. I did tell you those light wells under the sponsons were anti-grav engines, but no-one believed me.

Or giant fans. HMS QE has been recruited by SHIELD.

Fitted for, but not with (?) It is a bit confusing, I believe the plan is to use the "Formation Reconnaissance Overwatch Ares" variant with dismounted Javelin teams. Even though the vehicle used will be mounted with a protector RWS which is capable of been fitted with a Javelin. Maybe we ...

would it be desirable to reduce the second batch of T26s from 5 to 3 and to order a second batch of T31s to increase hull numbers? I dont think that is feasible, we need the high end type 26 to not only protect the carriers, but also the nuclear deterrent and conduct patrols in the Atlantic searchi...

What happened to everyone hopeing And wanting not to be just only one source. Supplier folks. Or is that out of the window now , playing devils advocate. Here wether thats a good thing or not who knows? Well with the type 31, BAE have took a back seat and are in more of a supporting role. They have...

Wrekin1410 wrote:According to AIS Marine she was off the coast of Malta at 14:30 GMT

Does anyone know if this is true? I looked and AIS positioned it off Malta. I was under the impression that she was in the Atlantic west of Spain.

Two years later a T-26 is lost in the gulf, torpedoed by a Iranian diesel submarine whist its Wildcat had been sent to investigate what turned out to be a decoy, and although the submarine was detected by the superb sonar on the T-26 after it had launched its two torpedoes the T-26 could not prosec...

Image from the Jane article. Wildcat capable hangar and possibly a Merlin capable flight deck. Looks like there might be a 30mm gun each side of the hanger below the CIWS. A 5inch main gun and Harpoon each side, plus what looks like VLS cell behind them, maybe in addition to the VLS cells behind the...