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by Caribbean
31 Jan 2016, 20:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1124
Views: 76232
Location: England

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN)

We always have to out-do the French. As they have gone to a 2-tier (escorts) navy a long time ago, we will do 3-tier I've always thought of the French as having a 4-tier navy, escorts, "light" frigates, the avisos and then the patrol boats. Though they are removing the ASW rockets and Exo...
by Caribbean
31 Jan 2016, 16:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

shark bait wrote:The next step is making these systems unmanned


Indeed - unmanned offboard systems - I should have been more precise. As you say, Merlin is a very capable offboard system (I included Merlin in my original comment, but edited it out on the re-post - might have made the context clearer :) )
by Caribbean
31 Jan 2016, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

There definitely should be some synergies between the FLF and MHCP programme. One needs to be a credible surface combatant that focuses on modular off-board payloads, whilst the other is not a credible surface combatant, more of a cheap utility platform, but one that still focuses on operating the ...
by Caribbean
30 Jan 2016, 04:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

Err, might it be the new shipbuilding strategy (for warships): a bit of countervailing power induced into the monopoly equation? - experience from ACA as the proof of the pudding? It does seem to constitute evidence (though rather slim at the moment) that all is not quite so gloomy as some believe ...
by Caribbean
29 Jan 2016, 20:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

Just an observation, but BMT seems to be recruiting designers for both surface vessels and submarines.Business prospects must be good!
by Caribbean
29 Jan 2016, 13:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2764
Views: 140694
Location: England

Re: river I/I.5 and II patrol vessels

I agree we should, UAV's has to be the best method to achieve that, so a hangar would be very valuable. Not sure how valuable the big gun would be though. We are expecting these ships to patrol after all, not fight other ships. A 30mm is fine for warning shots, and upsetting people in boats, so it ...
by Caribbean
29 Jan 2016, 04:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2764
Views: 140694
Location: England

Re: river I/I.5 and II patrol vessels

you do not design your fleet to suite your peace time patrols, The Rivers are, of course, designed exactly for that. They are Fishery protection vessels, intended to work around the coast of the UK, with support available from land-based assets at relatively short notice. Even a 20mm is probably ov...
by Caribbean
25 Jan 2016, 16:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

Socotra? That's interesting - I wonder if we can still hold the Yemeni Government to this "In January 1876, in exchange for a payment of 3000 thalers and a yearly subsidy, the sultan pledged "himself, his heirs and successors, never to cede, to sell, to mortgage, or otherwise give for occu...
by Caribbean
18 Jan 2016, 18:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 275968
Location: England

Re: Future 'Lighter' Frigate

Ron, IIRC, the PM said something more along the lines of "the Scottish yards will be able to bid for the contract" in response to a question following his SDSR speech about whether they will all be built in Scotland, so I think it might not be quite so cut and dried. Probably just lining i...

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