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by Defiance
21 Sep 2017, 13:03
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 824
Views: 49652

Re: Section infantry weapons

Sooner have it squashed quickly than suck money up for decades, produce nothing only to come to the same conclusion.
by Defiance
21 Sep 2017, 08:34
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1385
Views: 83431

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft General Discussion

Nobody wants a low number of extremely expensive silver bullets ... like 2 :D I see what you're getting at ;) You could argue that B-21 wouldn't just be a strike aircraft, that could provide some sort of penetrating ISR/EW capability. I just simply don't believe the MOD wants to up-arm to that degr...
by Defiance
21 Sep 2017, 07:52
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1385
Views: 83431

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft General Discussion

No chance, no chance at all. Nobody wants a low number of extremely expensive silver bullets, not the MOD or the RAF.
by Defiance
20 Sep 2017, 07:31
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

Ron5 wrote:Doesn't the country that makes the sale get final assemby?


Unless the country they're selling to stipulates local manufacture, yes.
by Defiance
19 Sep 2017, 08:12
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

^^^^ pretty much.

The difficulty with the Germans is that defence procurement is MASSIVELY about buying political relationships (ref. Qatar), if you buy a political relationship with Germany you get a strong economic partner but the majority want something more than that.
by Defiance
19 Sep 2017, 07:45
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

Could you explain how Germany buggered up India? Scuttlebutt was while they were talking to India, India wanted to be speaking with us, presumably because we had a fairly solid relationship with them through HAL and understood how they conduct business. Not a whole lot can be done when the French a...
by Defiance
18 Sep 2017, 11:02
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

Dassault sent a generic letter in response to the Belgium RFGP compared to full responses by UK/USA. Belgium had specific answers and Dassault did not provide them and the BAC don't have the time to piss around with getting half the story, they're on the clock. For me it's going to be F-35 with Typh...
by Defiance
18 Sep 2017, 07:53
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

Will this jeopardise a future KSA order? A bird in the hand and all that.... Am I right in saying that this would be the third export deal decided by the UK/BAE (Oman, KSA and now Qatar, assuming it goes through ok)? And the only other partner to secure a sale is Italy (Kuwait)? Are the German and ...
by Defiance
15 Sep 2017, 12:40
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)
Replies: 246
Views: 22400

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

They pretty much are though, that's the thing. The occasions where you'd need a rough strip capable AAR vehicle in the volumes you'd need to replicate an A330 are few and far between and it'd be incredibly expensive. When everybody is contesting you with sound financial, operational and engineering ...
by Defiance
15 Sep 2017, 11:26
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)
Replies: 246
Views: 22400

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

737-200 has an engine mod, no reason in principle that an A330 couldn't get a similar mod. The fact that it can't operate in the same conditions as a Herc has no impact to its operational effectivness, that's not how it's used or how it will be operated - it can efficiently take a sh*te load of fuel...
by Defiance
15 Sep 2017, 09:34
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)
Replies: 246
Views: 22400

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

High landing gear and big engines lower to the ground don't lend themselves to unprepared strips (poor rough terrain handling and FOD respectively) either.
by Defiance
14 Sep 2017, 08:17
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 824
Views: 49652

Re: Section infantry weapons

Mercian Regiment judging by the TRF
by Defiance
13 Sep 2017, 13:31
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)
Replies: 257
Views: 20111

Re: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)

I'm not criticising the aircraft but for the life of me I can't see the point in it. The C130J and C17 fleet seemed capable of transporting pretty much everything required for the RAF to support the Army, predominantly 16 Air Assault Brigade, what new capability does the Atlas add? Army kit is gett...
by Defiance
13 Sep 2017, 13:26
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)
Replies: 257
Views: 20111

Re: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)

Cooper wrote:I must say they're a fine looking bird, they have a real chunky, solid looking appearance about them..


They're always great at airshows too IMO, they appear to handle very well considering what she looks like and what the role is.
by Defiance
09 Sep 2017, 18:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5942
Views: 279150

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

It feels like this close to decision point, BMT have a production strategy and partners will have been at least engaged - whatever they plan to do to build it they've got an idea.
by Defiance
09 Sep 2017, 17:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (1998-2018) (ex RN)
Replies: 1155
Views: 58931

Re: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (RN)

not exactly a poor choice in South America to improve relations with through this type of sale if it were to come off. Brazilian and Argentine Marines train together; may be the former will let the latter take it for a spin :) True, but it feels like their Marine training is probably in as poor sta...
by Defiance
09 Sep 2017, 17:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (1998-2018) (ex RN)
Replies: 1155
Views: 58931

Re: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (RN)

Plus Brazil's not exactly a poor choice in South America to improve relations with through this type of sale if it were to come off.
by Defiance
07 Sep 2017, 08:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10028
Views: 674778

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I think it's a bit more poetic, the sinking of the previous Prince of Wales being representative of the decline of the battleship in favour of airpower.
by Defiance
07 Sep 2017, 08:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 105207

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Caribbean wrote:And interestingly, SJP made reference to adapting civilian designs for military use


I'm glad it got a reference, there's a lot of cost-effective potential there.
by Defiance
06 Sep 2017, 08:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5942
Views: 279150

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

"The £250m price cap was implemented as it was seen as the optimum price to encourage export orders" Loving this line too; nothing to do with the fact that we don't have sufficient cash for anything better...... Warning shot towards the Navy too, it's not unknown for multiple design chang...
by Defiance
21 Aug 2017, 17:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10028
Views: 674778

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

This bring us to the 30ish F35 between the three platforms, You're only buying 30 F-35B overall so that's a garbage line of reasoning. You're not likely to get much beyond 18 operational at any time, personally I think that's a fair guess. Not accepting that reality makes it obvious there's not muc...
by Defiance
21 Aug 2017, 17:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10028
Views: 674778

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

This bring us to the 30ish F35 between the three platforms, You're only buying 30 F-35B overall so that's a garbage line of reasoning. You're not likely to get much beyond 18 operational at any time, personally I think that's a fair guess. Not accepting that reality makes it obvious there's not muc...
by Defiance
17 Aug 2017, 08:15
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1730
Views: 105532

Re: Typhoon

As common as possible, structural limits permitting.
by Defiance
11 Aug 2017, 08:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 215018

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

It's a smarter strategy. The more you can make it a 'you scratch my back' scenario you end up building a better economic case which is increasingly the focus these days.
by Defiance
02 Aug 2017, 12:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9807
Views: 421637

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Meaningful depends entirely on what you intend to do with it.

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