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by RetroSicotte
26 Jun 2019, 08:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

The MoD in no sensible way could commit to building them up here during that period. Why not? I think it gave the MOD a convenient excuse to do things on the cheap. Complex warships can only be built in the UK. Awarding a contract to the Clyde, only for the Clyde to suddenly become not in the UK wo...
by RetroSicotte
25 Jun 2019, 16:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

But, MOD decided the delay two times: first time for the 3 River B2s, and secondly for the 2 more. When the "2 more" are ordered, political situation was basically already settled down? So I think the T26 design was really not ready yet . My apologies, Donald, but unless I'm greatly mista...
by RetroSicotte
25 Jun 2019, 16:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

I personally think RN fleet size is over-sized compared to their budget. There are many "hollow" assets all around the UK military. For me, "19 escorts saga" is just doing bad than any good to RN. If "16 escort" is to be the aim, RN should have had ordered 10 T26, and ...
by RetroSicotte
25 Jun 2019, 14:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

People talk of the US missing the boat here. They're not.

It's the UK who missed it. By the government delaying so much about just funding the damn thing. We could have had one in the water already.
by RetroSicotte
24 Jun 2019, 15:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 825
Views: 46985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Iv always thought an Ajax based IFV made more sense over all, yes would of cost more up front but would reduce through life and training costs as well as giving us a more modern platform. Iv said it over and over but IMO the enter medium armour fleet should be replaced with solely Boxer and Ajax ba...
by RetroSicotte
24 Jun 2019, 14:23
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 825
Views: 46985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Sounds more like a murmur between officials to look at other options as a possible alternative.

The above can easily be interpreted by a newspaper as ARMY LOOKING TO NOT DO IT ANY MORE.
by RetroSicotte
24 Jun 2019, 08:43
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 825
Views: 46985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Defence chiefs are considering an about-turn on a delayed £1.6bn project to upgrade the army’s Warrior armoured vehicle. After spending eight years and more than £400m trying to refurbish the hull of the 30-year-old vehicle, army officials are considering buying new hulls instead. Tracks, engines a...
by RetroSicotte
20 Jun 2019, 09:54
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1728
Views: 103584
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

shark bait wrote:“digital stealth”

Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?

Sounds similar to how France first advertised Rafale.
by RetroSicotte
19 Jun 2019, 13:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9756
Views: 412136
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A bit of fantasy here so sorry up front All good, thats what this thread is for. but could it be a good move for the RN to move to a mix of 76 mm and 40 mm for both the T-45 and the T-31 and do away with the 114 mm the 30 mm and Phalanx on these ships to have a armament like so Why remove the CIWS?...
by RetroSicotte
19 Jun 2019, 11:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9756
Views: 412136
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Good thing is that 57 mm is continuously seeing big investment on its smart ammo. I think 57mm is more and more becoming attractive as the main gun of an escort (other than NGFS). I am personally not surprised even if the 114 mm gun of T45 be replaced with 57 mm gun. It will save a lot of weight an...
by RetroSicotte
18 Jun 2019, 11:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 274679
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

As it is pretty obvious that we cannot restrict certain threads to news only as in the T-31e and T-26, and as these appear only in the Naval category, maybe we should make these simply thread to discuss specific platforms like happens in the Army category where both news and discussion takes place ...
by RetroSicotte
18 Jun 2019, 09:36
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Definitely is too early to be comparing their contents. Although there was murmurings of Tempest using "developed technology" from Typhoon, so a nose large enough for a Captor-E seems highlighted. What kind of size of the French model is to that I dunno. Captor-E is about 1,500 t/r modules...
by RetroSicotte
06 Jun 2019, 09:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10019
Views: 665417
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Timmymagic wrote:Just CH-53, UH-1Y and AH-1W to go. Will an AV-8B make an appearance at some point?

Would be great to see a Harrier drop on board from Italy or the USMC.

Some French helos too, to collect them into the growing list.
by RetroSicotte
04 Jun 2019, 08:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 102999
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Not if we go for Leander they won't ! I’m no defender of the T31e, but if the RN thought it was a must-have they would have put it on the RFI? The RFI was not designed by military needs. It was designed by the measure of "what is the minimum possible thing we can still call a frigate in PMQs&q...
by RetroSicotte
03 Jun 2019, 14:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10019
Views: 665417
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Bagged another aircraft to the collection!

We seriously need a sticky post to keep track of everything that has landed on QE. What is it now?

- Lightning
- Wildcat
- Merlin
- Apache
- Osprey
- Sea Stallion
- Seahawk
- Local Scottish Man's Drone
- Rosyth Dockyard Owl

Anything else? :p
by RetroSicotte
31 May 2019, 09:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

I've heard a few times that the design for the US frigate program must be in production, what does this mean with HMS Glasgow coming together in Glasgow, do it mean more than one built? Must be in service to get money from the US for the design phase. The final draft phase may allow anything, it's ...
by RetroSicotte
30 May 2019, 13:51
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 256
Views: 21837
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:... but this is like the Wimbledon (and the Scots don't turn out any AFVs :) )

Most ice cream trucks that have to work the east end of Glasgow may disagree. :P
by RetroSicotte
30 May 2019, 13:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 274679
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Alright lads, news thread. :)
by RetroSicotte
30 May 2019, 08:41
Forum: British Army
Topic: British Army Future Wheeled APC
Replies: 1251
Views: 66965
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

Challenger 2 Mk2 and Ajax's Orion sights are...pretty dang high end. May be excessive for the cost of Boxer.
by RetroSicotte
30 May 2019, 08:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Interesting development in the FFG(X) program that might have T26 implications So LM aren't doing the competitive design stage, but that doesn't stop them bidding for the final build contract, and they could bid the T26. Is that right? That is the case, as I am aware. Interesting that FREMM has got...
by RetroSicotte
24 May 2019, 09:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 274679
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Well if we got five of those, especially with the option to fit the multipurpose missile bay, fit a 57mm and two 35mm and I would think the Royal Navy would be very happy. WE might even see a batch two with a more fighty variant later on for a couple more. Now we just need to see more of the compet...
by RetroSicotte
24 May 2019, 08:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 274679
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Well if we got five of those, especially with the option to fit the multipurpose missile bay, fit a 57mm and two 35mm and I would think the Royal Navy would be very happy. WE might even see a batch two with a more fighty variant later on for a couple more. Now we just need to see more of the compet...
by RetroSicotte
23 May 2019, 16:43
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

F.4 funded, but will take years to convert the fleet to that std I've heard conflicting information on that to be honest. Last I read said they were "updating" the datalink, but I saw no explicit confirmation of this meaning the upgrade contained a two-way system like Typhoon, Gripen, or ...
by RetroSicotte
22 May 2019, 13:21
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Like what? I don't think the difference is so clear. For example the French fly a more advanced radar and a more advanced EW suite on Rafale than the RAF do on Typhoon. Captor-E is significantly more advanced than the RBE-2, for one. And the EW one is something we cannot compare in direct form. The...
by RetroSicotte
22 May 2019, 11:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212121
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

shark bait wrote:Do you have a source?

I think he meant "should" as in "I feel that" rather than "it's said that".

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