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by abc123
06 Aug 2019, 15:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3924
Views: 305329

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

About as realistic as you sticking to the "News Only" part of the thread. I know that they will not do that, but sincerely doubt that any big harm was done by posting that here? Mods can transfer it into another thread if they want. Also, considering the glacial speed of T26 construction,...
by abc123
06 Aug 2019, 13:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3924
Views: 305329

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Ok, if somehow, HMG, say tomorrow decides that they will order 13 T26 right now, all of them, what do you think realistic delivery schedule would be?
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 11:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 220497

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

What's in that part behind the funnel? Couldt some small hanger ( maybe extendable ) be added there and that part moved somewhere, left or right? https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--xFSz4JkhUQ/XTqbqwgI24I/AAAAAAACFbM/gceJBHXZMoEEEPTF_vPkJru5Wh9xuVncACEwYBhgL/s1600/66652031_1413802032122240_7405414424585961...
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 11:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think that a second shipbuilding company, based in England ( or at least out of Scotland ) is necesarry, in case of Scottish independence. Whatever the costs are. Keeping it for long period, compared to "pay for moving everything back to England when it happens", which will be more expe...
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 09:58
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1495
Views: 130542

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The demise of the Northrop led land based F-18, was a bone of contention between them and McDonald Douglas, as the former were supposed to be the lead for land based sales, but the latter broke the agreement. The land based version was far lighter and had an airframe stressed to 9G unlike the FA-18...
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 08:27
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1495
Views: 130542

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The demise of the Northrop led land based F-18, was a bone of contention between them and McDonald Douglas, as the former were supposed to be the lead for land based sales, but the latter broke the agreement. The land based version was far lighter and had an airframe stressed to 9G unlike the FA-18...
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 08:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think that a second shipbuilding company, based in England ( or at least out of Scotland ) is necesarry, in case of Scottish independence. Whatever the costs are.
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 08:02
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1495
Views: 130542

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Not really surprising, but this decision will definitely impact on FCAS' overall performance. Building in the strength to absorb routine carrier ops means a lot of weight... https://www.janes.com/article/90221/european-fcas-fighter-to-be-optimised-for-carrier-ops But who will pay for that? I can't ...
by abc123
03 Aug 2019, 07:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 220497

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Some more photos.. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oS1m_k1_sFQ/XTLYmYcuuMI/AAAAAAACFRs/v9nGnSU_LZ0FIet8r4SuhGRpHPyIr3WmwCLcBGAs/s1600/67413516_10214969737421725_2997774717479288832_o.jpg What's in that part behind the funnel? Couldt some small hanger ( maybe extendable ) be added there and that part mov...
by abc123
31 Jul 2019, 14:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote: The key to the T26 is its cutting edge propulsion system, noise reduction and acoustically optimised hull etc.

If they are not required then Arrowhead is a solid option at a vastly reduced cost.


:thumbup:
by abc123
31 Jul 2019, 12:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

[quote="Jake1992". If it was me and the time and budget it was there I’d look at the very successful British design in the T26 and see how to use the design as a starting point in design a light frigate version, one that would use the prowess of the T26 design with out being the high end e...
by abc123
31 Jul 2019, 12:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Jake1992 wrote:
Poiuytrewq wrote: is why the T31 is just rehashed designs already out there.


And what's so wrong about that? Except that it wont cost the MoD a bilion pounds per ship...
by abc123
29 Jul 2019, 21:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

People keep returning to wanting to turn the type 31 into an asw ship and comparing it to every new design going. We have a modification to a corvette, we have a modification to a danish asw ship and a modification to a meko frigate in the contest. And yet the best and cheapest asw escort vessel is...
by abc123
28 Jul 2019, 17:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Actually, not a bad proposal at all, I would just delete aft 57 mm gun and put there either a third 30 mm gun with LMM ( or maybe even with a Brimstone missiles ). Would agree with this a 2nd 57mm seems too much here - would rather see 57mm fore, 30mm port & starboard plus a LMM/Starstreak laun...
by abc123
28 Jul 2019, 17:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The item-1 is an action for short-term = NOW, and item-2 is for long term = needs ~10 years to accomplish. Independently, here I have some proposal to generate the operational cost and man-power pay rise, by cutting equipment budget. Specifically, the 1.5B GBP of T31e program. As can be seen, my pr...
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 13:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Caribbean wrote:Hi, not my quote. You'll have to sort out the html tags to get it to quote correctly, or delete the post and re-post it


Sorry, my bad.
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 11:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote:
Caribbean wrote: We just have to hope that Mr Javid is a bit more generous than Mr Hammond. Time will tell.


Mr Javid will be as generous as Mr Johnson orders him to be. :think:
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 11:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Where do the cut exist? Because 1,25 bln. will be spent on 5 T31 during next few years, while the same money will be spent on T26 No9 15 years from now, if ever. Uhm, reasonable point. But what if you buy 5 more F35B (for 750M GBP) in 2020-2025 and do not buy 5 in 2030-35? # The other 750M GBP will...
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 10:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A heretical idea: What if we cancel last two T26 (so only 6), and instead use the money (1,5 bln.) to: A) build 2 more T31 (so 7) B) better equip T31, with CAMM and NSM/Harpoon, C) maybe even add ASROC on T26 or CAPTAS on T31? Ok, I agree, that's spending of future money, but its the same budget ...
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 10:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

IF the Navy wants to make a point, in the 2020 SDSR they should put forward the idea that they T-31e should be cancelled and the funds used to proceed with other programmes as well as purchasing a ninth T-26 down the road. They could justify it by saying publicly that all the option for the T-31e f...
by abc123
25 Jul 2019, 07:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

IF the Navy wants to make a point, in the 2020 SDSR they should put forward the idea that they T-31e should be cancelled and the funds used to proceed with other programmes as well as purchasing a ninth T-26 down the road. They could justify it by saying publicly that all the option for the T-31e f...
by abc123
24 Jul 2019, 12:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10686
Views: 928833

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

There are 15 F35Bs at Marham, so assuming you could get 12 deployed in emergency that would be a pretty effective force. Real issue is which pilots are qualified for it, I feel. Only a couple have actually operated on QE thus far I feel. Going from "never touched the ship before" to "...
by abc123
24 Jul 2019, 10:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As some have said, IMHO the first priority is to try solve manning. That will mean more money, either as salaries or enlistment/retaining bonus. First thing is to try do more with what RN allready has. So, say 20 000 pounds as a bonus for 2-3000 new sailors, that's 60 millions. Another 10 000 as bon...
by abc123
24 Jul 2019, 09:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 220497

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

If HMG had ordered the number of escorts it ought to have ordered and delivered BREXIT when they should have, these yards would in all probability not now be facing closure. Governments of recent decades stand guilty of gross incompetence regarding Naval Defence, which cannot be regenerated if you ...
by abc123
23 Jul 2019, 19:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10715
Views: 664319

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SKB wrote:
abc123 wrote:IIRC, it's Secretary?

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Yep, your'e right. My bad.

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