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by mr.fred
07 Feb 2020, 23:46
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1491
Views: 219411
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

Bugger the 105mm option, can we have as many of those 3030 unmanned turrets with a CTA40 and 2x Spike LR as soon as possible. Goodbye Boxer APC hello Boxer IFV, still with eight dismounts. Recce version has extra ammo, ATGWs and Sensor mast with additional crew. It will take at least five years and...
by mr.fred
07 Feb 2020, 20:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1491
Views: 219411
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

If what you say is correct, and BAE had a fully compliant solution at the lowest price that didn’t get picked, I would have thought that they would have legal redress?
by mr.fred
21 Jan 2020, 17:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Part 2 of the Tank Museum’s piece.

A bit light, in my opinion.
by mr.fred
04 Jan 2020, 18:04
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1820
Views: 281976
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

In fairness, the US is having problems getting all the access to the software that it wants.
by mr.fred
02 Jan 2020, 15:40
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

IMHO if it really is that important to stay in the heavy tank business we should do it properly, build a new chassis as well and call it Challenger 3. The trouble with a new build is that we don't really have the time to do it. The Challenger 2 needs obsolescence management/upgrading now, if not so...
by mr.fred
02 Jan 2020, 12:48
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Latest open source price I for M1A2C is USD 1.5 Billion for 135 units, contract signed 2017, ie £8.5million per unit at current exchange rates. What's included in that £8.5m? Guns, Radios, engines, tracks, VAT? US contracts often miss those things out. Challenger LEP budget is unknown as it does no...
by mr.fred
01 Jan 2020, 02:15
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 522
Views: 103005
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

dmereifield wrote:
dmereifield wrote:8 years ago they received a contract, and thus far none have been delivered....


Delivered operationally I mean to say, which is a criticism of the Army/MoD, not BAE

What about Lockheed Martin?
by mr.fred
31 Dec 2019, 10:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

For the optimistic, the 2035 date could be the acceptance that 10-15 years is the longest you can expect an AFV to serve without some kind of update.
by mr.fred
23 Dec 2019, 09:55
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

From : https://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/11/challenger-2-lep-bidders-downselected.html The British MoD choice effectively eliminated all other biding companies, which were the Belgian CMI Defence (in a team with Ricardo), the German company KMW (teamed up with Pearson Engineering), the...
by mr.fred
22 Dec 2019, 23:30
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

It may be "bigger" shell. Smoothbores take a lot more longer shells than the L30A1 because it's two piece, not one piece. But dart sizes inside the shell have increased due to how much less space the propellant needs as chemistry improves, thats why they are "longer". It's not r...
by mr.fred
20 Dec 2019, 23:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

This popped up on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlcRsMB9SwM Interesting details on the development and selection of the Challenger 2. Part 2 looking at the details of the tank coming up. Odd how the export tank thing seems to have died a death - maybe the proliferation of surplus MBT flee...
by mr.fred
16 Dec 2019, 23:13
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

God forbid the BA ever aspiring to have the best tank. That would never do. A CR2 LEP with a 130mm gun would only be the best tank in a top trump deck. In real life the rate of fire would tend to zero over any period of time, unless you also scope to include an auto loader. Scope creep being the de...
by mr.fred
16 Dec 2019, 15:49
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1633
Views: 222316
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

I’m fairly confident that putting the 130mm into CR2 LEP would be foolish at best.
by mr.fred
08 Dec 2019, 11:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 351
Views: 77870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

That means around 805% of that 1.5 billion is recoverable If you can get £12bn out of it, then might I suggest loftier ambitions? And there shouldn’t be any risk - that’s why defence contractors exist. If the MoD specify the requirements, they must hold the risk related to that. If they provide equ...
by mr.fred
07 Dec 2019, 09:20
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)
Replies: 414
Views: 88042
Location: United Kingdom

Re: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)

Ron5 wrote:So why aren't the missiles similarly oriented?

To make them level when the helicopter is in a hover?
To ensure that there is no risk of hitting the rotor disk when fired?
by mr.fred
06 Dec 2019, 21:35
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)
Replies: 414
Views: 88042
Location: United Kingdom

Re: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)

Ron5 wrote:The wing appears to me to have significant angle of attack at normal flying attitudes so why is that unless to generate lift?

To reduce drag when in the nose-down attitude associated with higher speed flight in helicopters?
by mr.fred
06 Dec 2019, 11:45
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 351
Views: 77870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

But we’re not getting the price that Lithuania got. We’re paying £5m each for APCs. Warrior upgrade is a risk. It may or may not pay off, but I don’t think anyone here is in a position to say so yet. Pretending that you can recover money already spent and get a deal you have not got so far seems lik...
by mr.fred
06 Dec 2019, 10:23
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 351
Views: 77870
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

Bearing in mind that some of the £1.5bn will have been spent, and you’re looking at £5m apiece for Boxer (APC only) and £6m apiece for Ajax (equal mix of turreted and non-turreted) you may not get as many as you think.
by mr.fred
02 Dec 2019, 21:37
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1491
Views: 219411
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

Wherever you are , you're not going to be able to change the modules unless you've got some way to clean the mud out of the wheel arches.
by mr.fred
28 Nov 2019, 19:53
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1491
Views: 219411
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

Boxer, looking surprisingly small inside.

by mr.fred
27 Nov 2019, 18:01
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 522
Views: 103005
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Also appeared on forces tv news:

https://www.forces.net/video/british-forces-news
Saturday’s programme.
Mentions improving the chain gun, which I imagine would be welcome.
by mr.fred
18 Nov 2019, 07:25
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1491
Views: 219411
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:or the next version AEI (who are they, or rather: who are they owned by?)

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04462335
http://aei-systems.com/
A private spin-off from Enfield, it seems.
by mr.fred
27 Oct 2019, 12:25
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4785
Views: 595217
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

The incident was well publicised. The only point I was making was that it’s sometime necessary to have a plan B. There might be a situation where a missile from the bay will need to be used WVR and in a dog fight situation. There might be such a situation. I’m not saying that there couldn’t be. Wha...
by mr.fred
26 Oct 2019, 23:49
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4785
Views: 595217
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Quite why you’d want to launch a medium range missile while pulling severe negative g is another question. A USN Hornet used an AMRAAM WVR over Syria because Sidewinder was ineffective. While pulling severe negative g? What were the circumstances? Would you be willing to compromise the performance ...
by mr.fred
26 Oct 2019, 12:55
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4785
Views: 595217
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Quite why you’d want to launch a medium range missile while pulling severe negative g is another question. and a very valid one. Maybe you haven't expended all 4 pre-merge, but have already fired the two Asraams that you carry, in addition ... a good thing that internal Amraan carry will go from 4 ...

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