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by SW1
03 Nov 2018, 09:31
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

It appears humour is the first thing to go online! Written and verbal humour operate differently - most people who try to be "funny"online, either don't understand that, or posses the writing skills to convey their meaning adequately, which is why emoticons developed. ;) I’m an engineer n...
by SW1
03 Nov 2018, 08:33
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

SW1, do you post as mark on TD? I do came over here bit more entertainment, specially winding up the naval bods. Wouldn't you rather engage honestly in discussion than wind people up? Sorry, I've never really got the trolling thing. It appears humour is the first thing to go online! What happens he...
by SW1
02 Nov 2018, 21:00
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

topman wrote:SW1, do you post as mark on TD?



I do came over here bit more entertainment, specially winding up the naval bods.
by SW1
02 Nov 2018, 16:26
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

An issue with a/c that rely on signature management and in particular their cross section shape is it drives significant cost into there manufacture it also means changing the shape and any aperture is extremely difficult particularly increasing them in size. So any future upgrades needs to fit into...
by SW1
02 Nov 2018, 08:07
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The only real way the cost of any programme will be reduced is by scale and numbers produced. I would disagree to a point scale and numbers only get you so far before costs start to stay constant as rate tooling and and touch labour means costs will not reduce. The only way reduced cost is not to d...
by SW1
29 Oct 2018, 19:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 609932
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Be sure this small increase in funding will not be increasing any numbers it will purely allow the numbers already on order or in service to be maintained somewhat the cuts will just not be as bad as feared.
by SW1
29 Oct 2018, 16:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 609932
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Spread Sheet Phil has just announced £1billion extra for defence with special mention towards cyber security and ASW.. Exactly what this translates to isn’t known, no doubt we’ll find out when the MDP is finally published. Although a billion pounds extra is somewhat of a win for Williamson, it is o...
by SW1
29 Oct 2018, 15:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 609932
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Interesting you talking about a vessel of 130m it would appear FTI is available in that length

https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/ ... al-frigate

Could we license build 5 from the french and leave out some of the high end systems initially to save cost.
by SW1
28 Oct 2018, 21:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2356
Views: 151911
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Being reported as £500m for this year only to take defence up to the next departmental spending review. Or a sticking plaster pushing the decision down the road!
by SW1
28 Oct 2018, 18:12
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

If the Franco-German project is not successful we will be under American domination, the monopoly is not good for business, if our American friends are the only ones to manufacture combat aircraft and drones, they will set the price. Yep part of the reason f35 was conceived and marketed the way it ...
by SW1
28 Oct 2018, 16:40
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4227
Views: 311608
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning II (RN & RAF)

It’s not even that much some of that is at RR and BAEs sites in the states. Other bits of BAE classed strutures is already duel sourced with other parties to the East. What is actually manufactured in the uk is not representative with those graphics anymore.
by SW1
28 Oct 2018, 14:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 609932
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If the idea is martime security in the Falklands, Caribbean and Mediterranean is the driver behind type 31 then it’s completely the wrong ship. But we know thats not what it really is. Its an effort to build 5 “proper” frigate from whatever was left from the type 26 budget as it got way out of contr...
by SW1
27 Oct 2018, 21:35
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The ucas on display is essentially the Dassault nEUROn. As for the manned Franco/German element there’s already arguments over workshare and leadership. “Gens” are marketing terms. Sensors, airframe, weapons, data sharing, communications will represent the system that replaces current a/c. You are o...
by SW1
27 Oct 2018, 18:20
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

There isnt 2 tranche 1 typhoon sqns there being used throughout the fleet. The Utility in maintaining a large fleet and its ability to sustain a deployment as was seen with the tornado gr force is precisely why they have chosen to build typhoon up and maintain that strength 7 sqns. LJ I suspect the ...
by SW1
27 Oct 2018, 08:51
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

There currently building to around a 7 typhoon to 2 f35 fastjet fleet so that would give you on historic numbers around 16 f35 and 50 typhoon available out of that 50 typhoon would be required to support the 3 national qra taskings. As ever it will be pilot and engineer numbers that dictate these th...
by SW1
26 Oct 2018, 20:27
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The problem is what exactly your looking for, typhoon is about as gd is gets when it comes to a fighter a/c particularly in the air defence task that is the primary focus of any airforce. You will not design an new aircraft today that does any better in terms of airframe or engine. Yes you can add a...
by SW1
26 Oct 2018, 16:38
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Timmymagic I would agree. Tempest potiential could end up as a very heavy refresh of typhoon a la gripen e it could still end up as f35a as some want if budgets go south or sentiment changes. Numbers is the other thing thats optimistic the typhoon, and f35 will end up at a combined total fleet of 19...
by SW1
26 Oct 2018, 15:46
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1475
Views: 118603
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

https://www.janes.com/article/84058/raf-looks-to-typhoon-lightning-tempest-force-in-2030s A senior RAF officer told Jane's that the service "hoped to get the first Tempest aircraft into service in the early 2030s to begin replacing the first Tranche 1 Typhoons when they near the end of their 25...
by SW1
25 Oct 2018, 20:57
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)
Replies: 384
Views: 40694
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boeing E-3D Sentry AEW.1 (AWACS) (RAF)

LJ Most entertaining less robustly defending more creating a very very large rod for his back. I see many parallels with wedgetail and what happened with nimrod leading up to the decision to halt and then the decision taken to go with p8. Significant cheaper than the Saab offering and less than 5 ye...
by SW1
24 Oct 2018, 21:27
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)
Replies: 114
Views: 16330
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

The 5th sentinel is being maintained at a flyable status. This is a unique capability outside the states and should be maintained properly. The shadows are preparing to go into an upgrade program so there numbers will be in flux for a bit.
by SW1
24 Oct 2018, 18:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2356
Views: 151911
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Donald of Tokyo I would really like to see people inovate more in this area as technology has allowed systems to be separated from tradition platforms we should be getting into this in a big way. Austerity is the mother of invention. As you’ve shown from your research we wouldn’t need to invent much...
by SW1
24 Oct 2018, 08:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2356
Views: 151911
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Wonder if you could get a captas-4 compact sonar on to that lcu. Would be interesting if you could share the data with several of these deploying it. Or even some of the MCM systems Would be an interesting demonstration if we had a ship yard looking for work who fancied building a few LCU type vesse...
by SW1
23 Oct 2018, 21:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 609932
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So close to 200 missiles protecting a carrier plus whatever fighters are around I think it will be fine! If it get hot with the Russians it will all be in our back yard carriers and all. If we start shooting with the Russians at that scale there will be no one left to worry about loses... If the bac...
by SW1
23 Oct 2018, 21:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2356
Views: 151911
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

It was the multi mission element that caught my eye more than the pure lcu one. A possible guide to the future.
by SW1
23 Oct 2018, 19:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2356
Views: 151911
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/2018/euronaval-2018/6587-cnim-new-lcx-multi-missions-landing-craft-appears-at-euronaval-2018.html Very fast, travelling at over 20 knots with a 65-tonne payload and over 35 knots with no cargo, the LCX – or Landing Craft Multi-Missions...

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