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by SW1
05 Oct 2019, 16:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

There is relatively few ssn compared to ssk submarines in the world and fewer still that we need to concern ourselves with being that the UK, France and US operate by far the most. Russian ssn numbers probably less than a dozen split between the Pacific and Atlantic and the Chinese a similar number....
by SW1
04 Oct 2019, 08:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Berger goes far beyond the other service chiefs in describing how existing doctrine, weapons, and operational concepts are no longer adequate for the wars of the future That is a great article, and even though it's about the USMC as I'm reading it so much is applicable to the Royal Marines too. The...
by SW1
03 Oct 2019, 07:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

need for platforms that are small, plentiful, specialized, and [unmanned or] minimally manned so that naval forces can continue to operate effectively inside the contested zone I wonder how that would be different from the Streetfighter concept (which then became LCS)? - a simulation of all - at th...
by SW1
03 Oct 2019, 07:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 10478
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

If your operating in a cluttered littoral environment, up a fjord, in a sound, near a coast line with cliffs, then gun anti air systems maybe of more effect than missiles and have better reaction times than missiles where radar will give much less warning time than in open sea.
by SW1
02 Oct 2019, 22:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

https://warontherocks.com/2019/10/a-striking-new-vision-for-the-marines-and-a-wakeup-call-for-the-other-services/ Berger goes far beyond the other service chiefs in describing how existing doctrine, weapons, and operational concepts are no longer adequate for the wars of the future, especially given...
by SW1
02 Oct 2019, 17:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10477
Views: 864767
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Couldnt see the harrier having much problem operating from a qe to be honest. These would be PR appearances rather than a full operational clearance. Also f35 is more sensitive to ramp variances than harrier from landing gear layout and nozzle positions, f35 takeoff is all software controlled and co...
by SW1
29 Sep 2019, 14:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 9
Views: 753
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

It you wanted a ship yard with a history of building small boat and patrol craft and then wanted to combine that to integrate future payload systems in the manned/unmanned/optionally manned arena and then provide a long term funding stream to allow its development and become a global centre of excel...
by SW1
29 Sep 2019, 10:08
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 211
Views: 14661
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

If your content to put you ground based air defence system for deployed forces on a truck would you not be content to put your long range artillery on the same truck platform?
by SW1
28 Sep 2019, 11:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

The gulf is of diminishing strategic importance to the UK. What would happen to the Global economy if access to and from the Gulf was closed for six months? I think we would all find out very quickly why RN has a permanent presence in the region. I’ve no idea what would happen by I’m sure the count...
by SW1
28 Sep 2019, 11:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

transporting goods to or from the UK energy might not count as "goods" and on the relative scale UK's energy dependency https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/0/08/Energy_dependency_rate_%E2%80%94_all_products%2C_2007_and_2017.png is not bad compared to the rest of Euro...
by SW1
28 Sep 2019, 11:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

No not on top. Yep the ones already deployed should become LSG after all it’s what there doing isn’t it littoral security. The problem is it has been proven to not be enough with more escorts being sent and we know that as soon as we go back to one escort Iran will pop back out of the box. I would ...
by SW1
28 Sep 2019, 10:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

So the UK could have 1 bay and 1 type 23 east of suez as the littoral strike group east and the equivalent west. Type 23 to be replaced by type 31 in due course. Bay can take maritime security commandos and unmanned MCM boats and staff. Is this on top of the Bay and T-23 that are already in the Gul...
by SW1
27 Sep 2019, 15:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10477
Views: 864767
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

shark bait wrote:A QE will be the densest concentration of British air power for a very long time (since the falklands?).


Nope Granby was much larger and there nearly twice as many tornado GR sqn alone then as there is fast jet sqns now.

Nor is there any need to concentrate so much at sea.
by SW1
27 Sep 2019, 13:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 65129
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

So the UK could have 1 bay and 1 type 23 east of suez as the littoral strike group east and the equivalent west. Type 23 to be replaced by type 31 in due course. Bay can take maritime security commandos and unmanned MCM boats and staff.
by SW1
26 Sep 2019, 19:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

Obviously no 'command wires' but is it ideal to have either end of the system so far apart? The Leander design did things very differently with a space reserved in the misson area big enough for an ISO. This space was directly adjacent to the davit and below a hatch in the deck head. A 16 ton deck ...
by SW1
26 Sep 2019, 17:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

No objection. There is zero chance of adding USV based ASW capability to T31, as you say. I don’t believe that is necessarily correct this is a product that has developed out of a mod dstl program ... We simply do not know sizing and shapes of the final design and as I’ve said previously if on only...
by SW1
26 Sep 2019, 14:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

An ISO may contain the command module for a davit deployed offboard system but if the ISO's are part of the same package as the off-board systems is it really credible to split them up, half a ships length apart from the boats bays and bury them under a flight deck? Well there sure as heck split wh...
by SW1
26 Sep 2019, 14:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

No objection. There is zero chance of adding USV based ASW capability to T31, as you say. I don’t believe that is necessarily correct this is a product that has developed out of a mod dstl program “ It is also highly deployable. SeaDrix™ is 7.7m long x 3m high, meaning that it can be transported gl...
by SW1
25 Sep 2019, 20:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10477
Views: 864767
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Having crowsnest on a helicopter of course allows you to enhance your airborne situational awareness without the need to have your aircraft carrier deployed. Seems we keep talking about wanting distributed a/c ops, ships, intel gathering etc then purchase equipment that does the exact opposite and c...
by SW1
25 Sep 2019, 18:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

The T26 has a separate boat bay on the port side of the hanger with a davit mounted RHIB. Thank you “Just scaled the CG image, using ruler and calculator. As it is CG, it is accurate. Only if the actual design be different from CG, it will differ.” Donald while that gives a rough idea I think we wo...
by SW1
25 Sep 2019, 09:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

In that case, 9.5m (Arrowhead 140 boat-bay compatible) is not good. Can I ask were your referencing this size from, I havent seen anything that quotes it. In general if you have to keep manned ribs ready for quick deployment man overboard etc does type 26 have any other means of deploying it other ...
by SW1
23 Sep 2019, 20:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 10478
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

Agreed to a certain extent, if you get enough warning to move assets into theatre. HMS Montrose in the Gulf was out on a limb for quite a while and would have had to fend for itself it the Iranian had decided to make a serious move. The T-31e is probably going to be the vessel of choice for forward...
by SW1
23 Sep 2019, 19:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 10478
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

It amazing me how we always seem to go from wanting to add more guns and missiles, to the ship has to face the might of the Russian/Chinese navy on its own in the blink of an eye. I mean not only would the ship be part of a very large task group in would be a very large multinational task force it y...
by SW1
23 Sep 2019, 19:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 27602
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

Has it ever been disclosed what can be fitted in the boat bays I’ve seen it mentioned that they can deploy the largest RN ribs at 9.5 tonnes but I’ve not seen a size mentioned. I assume the spec would be made public until the contract is signed. I think deploying USVs is probably better done from ve...
by SW1
22 Sep 2019, 21:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 604704
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I don’t think the risk is with the RN at all. The risk is that RN won't actually end up with 8 Type 26's. Clearly the decision has been taken that due the political toxicity of curtailing the T26 build, on the balance of probability, the T26 programme will trundle along as planned. I think they kno...

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