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by Repulse
18 Jun 2019, 22:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2931
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

Does seem a waste as the best RM platform would be an Albion but we have one tied up. Maybe getting both LPDs back in service and replacing Argus should be ahead of any FLSSs.
by Repulse
17 Jun 2019, 17:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2766
Views: 141397
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I can see the 30mm, just 3 sailors standing in front of it.
by Repulse
17 Jun 2019, 13:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2931
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

shark bait wrote:Sounds like a job for the LSS


If RFA Victoria had CAMM it could do this role.
by Repulse
17 Jun 2019, 13:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 276816
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Given the increase in tension in the Gulf, would people say that a T31 built at the base RFI standard would be capable of escorting Tankers in such an environment? This is asking the Navy to deter a state actor, if the UK is placing this demand on it's personnel the MOD should equip them properly, ...
by Repulse
16 Jun 2019, 16:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2931
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

donald_of_tokyo , would say these would be complimentary to the P2000s as they are good simple boats for the URNU, training and also could have secondary security roles. These would be more akin to the Gibraltar boat squadron which are a permanent role and require a higher level of capability in hi...
by Repulse
15 Jun 2019, 19:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2931
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

With news that the UK is deploying 100 RMs to protect UK ships passing through the Gulf, what will they take with them - will the ORCs be enough? Shame the CB90 discussions haven’t gone anywhere. Perhaps fantasy, but in my view there is a gap in the RN fleet which is a Littoral Patrol Ship that can ...
by Repulse
15 Jun 2019, 16:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5941
Views: 276816
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Given the increase in tension in the Gulf, would people say that a T31 built at the base RFI standard would be capable of escorting Tankers in such an environment?
by Repulse
09 Jun 2019, 09:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2766
Views: 141397
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Old RN , always a big debate here, but if the B2 Rivers are going to have more globe trotting role then I think a single 30mm is inadequate. However, any addition weaponry has to be appropriate to the role (Patrol / Presence), the ship (it’s not a Frigate) and cost. My view would be to add: - the p...
by Repulse
08 Jun 2019, 15:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 27504
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

We are getting far off topic but a Boeing Orca XLUUV costs about £10mn each, so something similar for the RN for ASW protection operating from a mothership/OPV/Sloop would be a good option, though I’m very much in favour of 10 T26s and would see these (and MPAs) as complimentary.
by Repulse
08 Jun 2019, 12:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 27504
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

I think the RN will end up moving towards a 4 tier surface fleet outside of the Carriers. - Tier 1: World Class AAW & ASW Warships which are the HVU Escorts and provide offensive strike capabilities - Tier 2: Presence Warships which operate from either UK / BOT bases or forward based, used for s...
by Repulse
08 Jun 2019, 08:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2766
Views: 141397
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Came across this picture of a model of the new Thai Navy HTMS Prachuap Khiri Khan (ex HTMS Trang) - not suggesting that the RN should put Harpoons on the back of theirs, but interesting in terms how the Thai’s have pimped theirs. https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lZ_5ZAKHTBI/XDWSyStNT2I/AAAAAAAB6ko/gLpkxh4...
by Repulse
02 Jun 2019, 17:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 104085
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Pongoglo wrote:Not if we go for Leander they won't !


I’m no defender of the T31e, but if the RN thought it was a must-have they would have put it on the RFI?
by Repulse
02 Jun 2019, 09:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

More nice pics of Argus’s lift and hangar.

by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 18:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 104085
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

According to @CdrBobBond on Twitter the UK JEF will be operating 8 Merlins - nice pic of Argus’s lift. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D74wrPKXkAEV8YH?format=jpg&name=large Just to be clear @CdrBobBond has confirmed 3 Merlins and 3 AH Wildcats operating from Argus: https://twitter.com/cdrbobbond/st...
by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 14:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Caribbean , San Giorgio-class have lifts but for only suitable for small helicopters and have limited aviation facilities, would personally say its better to buy a large container ship and convert from there. Off-topic, but have always liked the San Giorgio-class and could see something similar act...
by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 11:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Is this the first time the RN has referred to Argus as a Helicopter Support Vessel?

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... te-denmark
by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 11:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 104085
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

With the 8 merlins sent to the Baltic that is pretty much the entire deployable commando merlin force. Agree - Once the full conversion is complete then I believe this will be heading towards a worrying 14 in total, with the other 14 in deep reserve, OCU or as U.K. based anti terror reaction flight...
by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 09:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Scimitar54 , spending money on stop gaps i agree is not what we should be doing. The point is can we afford to wait long, and do we know what we are aiming for - 2 “cheap” LHDs may look nice to some now but is it really what we need? A2D systems will increase in capability resulting in either a lar...
by Repulse
01 Jun 2019, 08:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

In principle making best use of what we have and extend isn’t a bad proposition. The main issue is Argus’s age, it is almost 50 years already will it go on for another 20yrs till replacement? Also, the assumption being made is that the end state will be 2 LHDs, which I think is far from certain. I s...
by Repulse
31 May 2019, 21:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Photo is from Baltic Protector 19. From what I hear, I would not be surprised if the End Ex lessons again show major issues with Argus as a surrogate helicopter carrier. Anything would have (limiting) “issues” compared to a CVF or an Ocean replacement, but seeing the former will never be 100% avail...
by Repulse
31 May 2019, 21:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Caribbean wrote:It has four spots and can hangar four aircraft, so I guess it could get them all on deck at the same time.


The Forts? I was answering SW1s point - should have been clear but hate just copying and pasting comments.
by Repulse
31 May 2019, 17:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Fair enough, but all on deck at the same time?
by Repulse
31 May 2019, 15:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)
Replies: 260
Views: 19034
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Argus (Casualty Receiving Ship / Aviation Training Ship) (RFA)

Avoiding overloading the Amphibious thread with pics of RFA Argus, but the one below from a week ago is a great example of what the ship can give - apart from HMS Queen Elizabeth what other ship in active service can operate even this small number of helicopters? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7UOAZmX...
by Repulse
31 May 2019, 13:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 104085
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

According to @CdrBobBond on Twitter the UK JEF will be operating 8 Merlins - nice pic of Argus’s lift.

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by Repulse
31 May 2019, 10:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 104085
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

They probably won't see their successors until the mid to late 2030s. Important point, which I agree with and even think that really we will be looking at 2040s before any replacements arrive, by which point amphibious warfare will have evolved further. If we actually look at what we have now, with...

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