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by Tempest414
15 Jun 2019, 10:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5949
Views: 281060
Location: France

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

There is simply no money in the budget for offensive weapons and the only offensive punch comes from the Helicopter so instead of a GP frigate it should be looked at as global patrol frigate. I think more can be done to Leander to make it a good local area defence escort like change the two 30mm for...
by Tempest414
13 Jun 2019, 17:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10035
Views: 678152
Location: France

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

As for the the harbour tour it happens all over I was at RAF Museum Hendon once and over herd a group tour where the guided did not know what a Jaguar was
by Tempest414
11 Jun 2019, 08:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

RichardIC wrote:I may have missed something but when have we seen B1s in the Black Sea?


Sorry you were right it was not the black sea it was HMS Mersey in the Aegean sea
by Tempest414
11 Jun 2019, 08:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Clive F wrote:A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?


I would say not if used in the UK EEZ role but in the low end global patrol role for which they are being lined for the bigger crew is plus
by Tempest414
11 Jun 2019, 08:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

It looks like one or two companies have put some good work into naval mounts for LMM I have seen it said and seen images of LMM and Starstreak HVM on the same mount if this is right its a lot of weapon for the money ( I have seen £7000 a missile ).
by Tempest414
10 Jun 2019, 10:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Echo has gone recently and there was no need to arm her to the teeth. Well lets look at it Echo class 2 x 20mm , 2 x miniguns , 4 x GPMG B2 River 1 x 30mm , 2 x miniguns , 2 x GPMG Looks to me the Echos are pretty well armed. And I for one do not think that 1 x 40mm and upto 16 LMM plus small a...
by Tempest414
10 Jun 2019, 09:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

No it is not in the Navy but it is in the MOD. For me the point is if we are going to send the B2's off on patrols in the med or as we have seen the B1's in the Black sea then maybe we need to look at there ability to defend them self and I think the sweet spot is 1 x 40mm Mk-4 Bofors with 3P ammo a...
by Tempest414
09 Jun 2019, 12:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I would agree that any upgrade to the B2's needs to be inline with its role and where it is likely to operate. For me a lot depends on the T-31 winner and what armament is fitted. From the latest info on A-140 and Leander it looks like Phalanx is out and will not be fitted if this is true then for m...
by Tempest414
07 Jun 2019, 14:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 28034
Location: France

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

You beat me to it I was about to say all the Bay were deployed right now top effort from the RFA
by Tempest414
07 Jun 2019, 14:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 28034
Location: France

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Looks like the US are making good use of the Bays for MCM trials I just hope we are taking it all in
by Tempest414
07 Jun 2019, 08:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 328
Views: 23437
Location: France

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

All good questions I will put them on the list
by Tempest414
06 Jun 2019, 12:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)
Replies: 79
Views: 8412
Location: France

Re: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)

RichardIC wrote:https://twitter.com/Gabriel64869839/status/1136563355722899456


well hopefully we will what the bidders come with
by Tempest414
05 Jun 2019, 23:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 328
Views: 23437
Location: France

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

I will be spending a week at Wattisham in the summer where I will also be visiting Marham , Honington and 16 air Assault at Colchester so if there are any questions anyone would liked asked I would be happy to put them forward but please no silly questions
by Tempest414
05 Jun 2019, 09:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

We are now at a point where we have ships like the bay class were we can carry in numbers unmanned boats, patrol boats or some marines or a couple of helicopter or some stores and the role of that ship changes accordingly dependant on what it’s carrying. Taking a leap these vessels would replace yo...
by Tempest414
04 Jun 2019, 23:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

so I see some good footage of land based gun crews firing from landing craft
by Tempest414
04 Jun 2019, 23:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

there is some hope in that the type 26 will be fitted with the mk-45 gun which can use Vulcano rounds which means the ship can stand off more as the new round has a claimed 90km range over the mk-8s 27km's. We are still low on numbers of both ships
by Tempest414
04 Jun 2019, 20:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Scimitar54 wrote:If you get your wish then there will be not much to provide NGS. 57mm as the biggest gun on a Type 45!!!!!, must be SRM.


As hard as it is hard to hear all the type 45,s will be working hard to cover the carrier groups and we can not afford to lose one doing NGS .
by Tempest414
04 Jun 2019, 17:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I know it is a big step replacing 30mm with 40mm but it does give an extra level of anti air that the 30mm will not and now both team 31 and BAE/CL have seemed to have ditched Phalanx I think any little extra could help. As for the B2 Rivers I would be happy with 57mm or 40mm as both would give some...
by Tempest414
04 Jun 2019, 14:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I have to say this was were my thinking was going with 5 B2 Rivers and 5 T31s I agree buy 5 sets and start playing if nothing more it will help inform MHPC thinking and may open the door to a T-31 order . Maybe also if Leander is picked maybe go for an armament of 1 x 57mm and 2 x new 40mm with 3P a...
by Tempest414
03 Jun 2019, 22:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Fitting a sonar to a River class operating in the Med is one thing I would look at but after giving the Rivers a UAV with I Master capability meaning they can search up to 60,000 KM2 in 3 hours
by Tempest414
03 Jun 2019, 11:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2786
Views: 144015
Location: France

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

All very good questions which I don't have the answers for but maybe a sonar of some sort just to make it harder for Russian sub commanders coming and going from the Med
by Tempest414
02 Jun 2019, 14:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 105926
Location: France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

One benefit of the merlin size is that all hangers in the RN have been designed for that large size giving us a good set of dimensions to work with in. Not if we go for Leander they won't ! I agree with that and to me the Leander is a poor lazy design for the money, it’s just s long legs covert tha...
by Tempest414
31 May 2019, 08:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3843
Views: 216525
Location: France

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

For me it will come down to what the US Navy wants does it need a world class ASW frigate or a good work horse if the latter then they wont go for T-26 but if it wants a world class ASW frigate they will need to take along hard look at T-26 before pushing it out
by Tempest414
30 May 2019, 16:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5949
Views: 281060
Location: France

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

for me if they want to put 24 CAMM on Leander fit 2 EXLS in place of the tubs and clean the hole thing up those horrid tubs make the ship look cheap and now they have added another cheap tub
by Tempest414
30 May 2019, 14:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2204
Views: 105926
Location: France

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Just to change things up a bit there is a nice picture on Plymouth live site of the UK led Baltic task group showing

HMS Albion
HMS Kent
RFA Lyme Bay
RFA Argus
MV Hurst Point
HDMS Absalon
HNLMS Johann de Witt

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