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by Poiuytrewq
16 Apr 2019, 13:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9936
Views: 599644
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Good progress.

Could a 3rd QEC now be a real possibility for India?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-a ... -agreement
by Poiuytrewq
16 Apr 2019, 13:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

In such a case, full set of Amphibious Group, with LPD, escorts, RFAs and even CV itself, will be sent. That's the theory but what if the CSG is deployed elsewhere and the rest of the T26's are busy with TAPS or refit etc. It's too thin for me I'm afraid. In my opinion, LSG will never deploy to suc...
by Poiuytrewq
16 Apr 2019, 12:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This is the crucial point - does the U.K. intend to export complete ships or design/build/support services & kit. It is the crucial point. I don't think the UK needs to export any complete naval vessels, great if it happens but we have to be realistic. Commercial vessels are a completely differ...
by Poiuytrewq
16 Apr 2019, 08:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Way off topic so I've moved it across, Thanks Donald, I enjoyed reading your reply. "A basic Leander" is orders-of-magnitude more fighty than our Coast Guard OPVs. Even compared to US CG cutter, Leander is much more fighty for sure. True, but is it 'fighty' enough? Few other nations would ...
by Poiuytrewq
16 Apr 2019, 08:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Merlin helicopters
Replies: 393
Views: 27130
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Merlin helicopters

donald_of_tokyo wrote:It is SAR AW101, not ASW. But still, 25M GBP per unit looks very cheap. Is it new build ?
At €90m that's works out around £20m per unit or have I missed something?

Seems like a bargain if correct.
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 21:11
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 811
Views: 42900
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

They believe the current 5.56 ammo is capable of delivering precision fore out to 600m. Depends on your definition of precision. A 5.56 round over 300m in high wind is a lottery and even in windless conditions trying to maintain even 2 MOA at 600m is tough. The LSW makes life a bit easier with the ...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 19:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42630
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Ron5 wrote:
Naval technology is UK based.

PS the article was absurd.
Thanks Ron.
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 18:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 586
Views: 31801
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Order eight and the magic 24 number would be sorted. Think you're maths is out.... 6 T45, 8 T26 + 8 T31 = 22 Escorts Apologies for not being perfectly clear. I had in mind 6x T45's, 8x T26's, 8x T31's and two dedicated TAPS vessels. These dedicated TAPS vessels could be T26 or T31 based, whatever R...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 17:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 586
Views: 31801
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

T31e is a fighting vessel If it ends up with a medium calibre gun and 12 CAMM and no HMS it will be more of a coastguard vessel than a credible frigate IMO. I think it would be fair to say that the T31 has the potential to be a fighting vessel, it all depends on the level of armament when it hits t...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 16:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42630
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Lord Jim wrote:It was an absolute mess until the American arrived.
Another good example of the importance of maintaining a sovereign ability to produce what the UK's needs when the UK needs it. Has the lesson been learned?
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 16:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I am not a fan of the T-31e but as long as the chosen design is capable to doing the tasks it is intended to do and frees up the T-23 and T-26 when they arrive, to do the high end tasks I am willing to accept them. I wonder how many RN senior Officers are regretting going for the absolute Rolls Roy...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 16:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Sorry I have no vision of T31e second batch. So what's what's the point of establishing a second non BAE escort production facility if it's only for 5 cheap hulls? If Cammell Laird get the contract for five 117m Leanders delivered by the mid 2020's what does the yard do after that? Letting CL go th...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 16:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5884
Views: 240849
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Repulse wrote:..my vote is for the smallest Leander design to complement the B2 Rivers in the global presence/ Littoral escort role
Do you mean something like the 103m/105m variant?

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by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 16:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5884
Views: 240849
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

...has this been said before...if SSSs were to be built in the UK, it is unlikely to happen on the Clyde - so some 'bridge' building in the rationale for the bidding group? It's a chessboard and there are various possible outcomes. I think there is a high likelihood that RN will want the A140 if it...
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 15:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T31e is (clearly from its budget) a downgrade from T23GP. It is crystal clear. What about any second batch? The first batch may be cheap and cheerful but if RN is serious about growing the 'escort' fleet back up to 24 then the second batch will need to be substantially more capable than the first.
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 13:33
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 811
Views: 42900
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

...the British Army was firmly considering moving away from suppression in favour of precision in infantry fire-fights... A possible precursor to changing the 5.56 for something heavier both in terms of weight and recoil? A good plan as long as you can see the enemy, optics etc would need to improve.
by Poiuytrewq
15 Apr 2019, 11:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42630
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Just for fun.... https://www.naval-technology.com/features/astute-vs-virginia-best-submarine/ The Astute programme has been far from plain sailing but even with all the problems BAE Barrow continues to produce world class boats at competitive prices. It's a fantastic British success story, and altho...
by Poiuytrewq
14 Apr 2019, 18:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It would be interesting to see what RN could do with a AAW Arrowhead140 variant and it's almost 20m beam. - we won't be seeing that as all that size growth that the T-26 went through would go to waste I'm not suggesting a T45 replacement, more of a supplementary vessel to back up the T45 within the...
by Poiuytrewq
14 Apr 2019, 10:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

thanks ... Auto correct strikes again.... :D Similarly, T45 is reportedly carrying 200-220 although its official number is 191. I think these real number is more important than official numbers. For example, the Iver Huitfeldt class with 160 crew is no surprise for me. Agreed, how realistic is Babc...
by Poiuytrewq
14 Apr 2019, 10:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9936
Views: 599644
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

12 CH-53K for Heavy lift Interesting proposal for heavy lift. I think the cost is clearly the biggest negative. At around twice the price of a Chinook they would be hard to justify although if Chinooks are to be regularly used at sea what toll will this take on these non-marinised airframes? Could ...
by Poiuytrewq
13 Apr 2019, 17:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9588
Views: 358287
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

HMS Duncan at Cyprus, with Danish Frigate Daniel Juel. Looks like a T45 and a T31e Arrowhead 140? :D 2019-04-14 0.07.13.jpg That was my first impression also :D remove the Smart-l, add Artisan, Phalanx, bridge wings, an extra boat house and re-profile the funnels and it's an Arrowhead 140. (It's Ni...
by Poiuytrewq
10 Apr 2019, 16:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 90061
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Tempest414 wrote:35 x NH-90 MTT
25 x Merlin HC-4
Have you any idea about the cost difference between the two?
by Poiuytrewq
10 Apr 2019, 11:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 90061
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Is there any point looking at the costing of the current enforcer designs as we are talking 10+ years away Well yes because if the LHD version is more expensive now than the LDP, there is little chance it will not be in the future. I understand the commonality argument but I don't think an enforcer...
by Poiuytrewq
10 Apr 2019, 11:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2203
Views: 90061
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

would it be better to order additional Merlin HC4s to improve the maritime lift capacity? Are there any other options? I don't have a view on this yet apart from ensuring that the Puma's are replaced with a capable but also highly cost effective design. Helicopter numbers are way too low now and th...

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