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by Poiuytrewq
06 May 2019, 10:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 574
Views: 36763
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

This leads to only one conclusion if the fulcrum of global geopolitics moves away from europe to asia - we must go with it. Bingo. This is clearly the direction of travel but is the Treasury convinced enough to fund this expansion east? Certainly under this administration the answer is a definite N...
by Poiuytrewq
03 May 2019, 11:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 574
Views: 36763
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Moved across. It's a compromise. What is more valuable; five patrol vessels and three support ships five frigates and two support ships? Clearly the 5 frigates and 2 FSS is preferable but perhaps another possibility should at least be considered before being discarded. If we can agree that the objec...
by Poiuytrewq
02 May 2019, 07:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9951
Views: 612673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

PhillyJ wrote:....the RAF may be feeling a bit wobbly...
Has the chances of getting 90+ F35B's just increased?
by Poiuytrewq
02 May 2019, 07:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?
Replies: 105
Views: 7431
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?

IIRC, during her time at DfID Penny Morduant was a proponent of DfID purchasing and the RFA operating a couple of dedicated hospital ships. I wonder if this becoming reality might be more likely now that she's Defence Secretary. Could Mr Williamsons Littoral Combat Ships now become Ms Morduants Glo...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Apr 2019, 09:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T26 lite Utterly meaningless. Not only does removing a couple of silos to create a 'T26 lite' save peanuts, it doesn't solve the RN problem. Additional T26 will not enter service until the 30's, by which time the RN will have dropped for 14 escorts. The RN can not drop to such a weak position for a...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Apr 2019, 19:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If a T26 lite was to be considered I would pitch it as an escort Frigate, basically a 21st century T23. Remove the Mk45 and auto mag. Remove the TLAM capability. Reduce CAMM to 24. Reduce Mk41 cells to 8 for ASROC. Reduce Phalanx to one unit. Add a Mk8. Add 24 VLS Spear 3. Retain full ASW capability...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Apr 2019, 19:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

...until the Scottish question is sorted... When will it ever be sorted? It isn't going away time soon regardless of any IndyRef2. HMG needs to invest more in Scotland, not less. By slowing investment and delaying contracts you just play into the SNP's hands. If Scotland was to ever vote for indepe...
by Poiuytrewq
27 Apr 2019, 12:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

No British government is going to put money into a escort factory ( I think we need to stop calling it a frigate factory as this site will need to build the T-45 replacement after T-26) until the Scottish question is sorted BAE will build the Frigate factory at Scotstoun if HMG order enough T26's. ...
by Poiuytrewq
26 Apr 2019, 14:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Q4 2019 - winning bid to be announced. This was supposed to be after the autumn spending review had been completed. Due to the Brexit stalemate it's likley the spending review will be pushed back so I think it's highly likley that the T31 timescale will slip further unless the political situation r...
by Poiuytrewq
25 Apr 2019, 15:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3787
Views: 191291
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Halidon wrote:The Canadians intend that a trio of their T26s will be Air Defense-focused...
It will be interesting to see how that turns out.

Any idea if it's the first three or the last three?
by Poiuytrewq
25 Apr 2019, 09:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3787
Views: 191291
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

The Mk41 numbers are all over the place but I agree, the crucial point is the seemingly increasing momentum to include the T26 in the FFG(X) programme. My opinion has always been the same, why would the USN want to choose a design that has been rejected by some of it closest Allies? Do the USN reall...
by Poiuytrewq
22 Apr 2019, 19:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The original c2 was meant to be a stripped down T26 And that's were it should have stayed.... Would agree with this and your classification of C1. Where I disagree, is that the C2 are not “fighting” ships, they are able to defend themselves either as Singletons or as part of a task force - e.g. B3 ...
by Poiuytrewq
22 Apr 2019, 19:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9951
Views: 612673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote:Needed for the QE class carriers ASAP if taking a cruise in the south China sea.
Along with a couple of Type 45's :thumbup:
by Poiuytrewq
22 Apr 2019, 15:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)
Replies: 716
Views: 54123
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

by Poiuytrewq
22 Apr 2019, 10:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

PAUL MARSAY wrote:Problem for me is I can see a role for lender , arrowhead and a river batch 3
How?
by Poiuytrewq
19 Apr 2019, 19:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9951
Views: 612673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Pongoglo wrote:It's also more than a remote possibility that it could be QE or PoW :oops:
When India order 40 or 50 F35b's I will start to get worried.

Until then.....

:thumbup:
by Poiuytrewq
19 Apr 2019, 19:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

or future proofing its options by going flexible, by going big? If they pick the A140 :) The Arrowhead140 is big but how flexible? Compared to Leander we haven't seen a lot of detail but the four boat bay's seem pretty cramped and there is no sign of a deck crane like Leander. The storage area unde...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Apr 2019, 14:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I used to think that having a ASW Corvette would have been a good idea, but after reading the article from ThinPinStripedLine and the recent announcement on the XLUUV then this seems much less important. The XLUUV could be the future but how long will it be before it is in widespread use with RN? I...
by Poiuytrewq
18 Apr 2019, 13:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Relevant to recent discussions. Written by a serving RN Warfare Officer this is worth a read. https://wavellroom.com/2019/03/14/royal-navys-design-flaws-sea-control-information-warfare/ Another thought provoking article on the UK's diminished ASW capability and possible solutions going forward. http...
by Poiuytrewq
18 Apr 2019, 12:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Rarely used ? Great overview of what's happened in the recent past but what's the future? I have been trying to make sense of why RN is persevering with the 4.5" Mk8 and I have concluded that they intend to use it with a VLS version of Spear 3. If the Mk8 can reach out to 25km+ and the Spear3 ...
by Poiuytrewq
17 Apr 2019, 20:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 247276
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

This was Babcocks competition to lose from the start but by shutting their only English yard at Appledore it certainly won't help I am reading on, but maybe the whole thing is about "rejuvenation" considering Arrow's overall length (close to its name) of 138.7m when HMS Scott (the biggest...
by Poiuytrewq
17 Apr 2019, 18:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

...disagree completely... No problem. That's what healthy debate is all about. It would be really boring if we agreed all the time :thumbup: This combined B1/B2/B3 fleet IMO would give the RN significant flexibility and options to tackle everything outside of major war fighting. I think you make a ...
by Poiuytrewq
17 Apr 2019, 16:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 368462
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

You could, and that will be a RN that is based primarily in the North Atlantic with an occasional visit elsewhere. It’s an option, but not one I’d advocate. Completely agree but my main point is about facing up to the consequences of current planning. RN has managed to hit the 24 target but how wil...

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