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by Poiuytrewq
25 Mar 2018, 16:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

£8bn should have been enough to replace the T23's if the budget had of been properly managed
by Poiuytrewq
25 Mar 2018, 14:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

In my opinion the T31e is a good idea but not at £250m each. Increase the budget up to around £400m a vessel and the RN would have a genuine Type23 replacement. It may also at that price point prove to extremely attractive for export. Also, if the Type 31e is going to be fitted with a 57mm or 76mm m...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Mar 2018, 20:16
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing Chinook (RAF)
Replies: 187
Views: 15406
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boeing Chinook (RAF)

Thanks, I was trying to find out if the Chinook was available in a marinised version but it appears not. Can't imagine all that salty sea air when deployed on the Carriers will do the airframes much good. It appears from I've read that the troop carrying capacity for both the Merlin and Chinook is s...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Mar 2018, 20:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I suspect if the Rivers had of come equipped with an embarked helicopter they would have been a bit more useful. Did the USGC vessels not have a dingy? I am sure the Americans are pleased that they can always rely on the British to make a meaningful contribution to any task group with their dingys :D
by Poiuytrewq
24 Mar 2018, 10:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Batch 3 River is very interesting, I have been looking at what it could add recently too. What is the likely cost difference between a Batch 2 or Batch 3 River? Would the Avenger concept with a fixed hanger also be an option, minus the CAMM cells. Could the crane be moved amidships and use this ...
by Poiuytrewq
23 Mar 2018, 11:11
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing Chinook (RAF)
Replies: 187
Views: 15406
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boeing Chinook (RAF)

Is it possible to fold the blades of RAF chinooks?
by Poiuytrewq
22 Mar 2018, 13:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I have to say a T31 at £400m each could be a real game changer!
by Poiuytrewq
22 Mar 2018, 11:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123427
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

That's over £4m a year per vessel, seems like a very high level of depreciation :shock:

What would they be worth if they were to be sold to Brazil?
by Poiuytrewq
22 Mar 2018, 09:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I agree on the multi mission platform. Maybe the T31 should go in this direction from the start but it appears the programme will be in such a hurry this opportunity may be missed. I agree 10 T26 and 6 T45 would be adequate to protect the carriers but not do much else. No further increase in ASW pla...
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2018, 17:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 1089
Views: 67388
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]

It would be good if they could drop in some Mk41 VLS cells while they are in drydock :D
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2018, 16:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Modernising Defence Programme is being put together at the moment and I for one am hopeful that it avoids becoming another cuts exercise (2010 SDSR) or un costed fantasy (2015 SDSR) and although tough choices will have to be made potentially the net effect could provide a clear vision and cohere...
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2018, 12:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42894
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Seems like most are in agreement on the benefits of an SSK programme, why the reluctance from RN and HMG to make it happen?
by Poiuytrewq
21 Mar 2018, 00:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Lord Jim Sir, I think that's a pretty good stab at it, certainly from a British or possibly European perspective. I would add that if the Crusier classification exists in the modern era it is a vessel that can deploy independently across the globe. Have the ability to neutralise aerial, surface and ...
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2018, 23:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123427
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I have to admit, I didn't see that coming. It makes a lot of sense to do it but HMG has been a bit short on common sense for a while now.
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2018, 08:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42894
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

Mainly defensive in nature!

Tell that to the guys on the USS Ronald Regan!

I take your point but would you not agree that a small number SSK's would be a benefit to a modern Royal Navy for patrols in the North Sea, Irish Sea, GIUK and the Med for example?
by Poiuytrewq
20 Mar 2018, 07:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What tonnage range would you put a modern light cruiser into?
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 21:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243168
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Babcock and BMT have gone very quiet recently, I suspect a lot of work is going on behind the scenes at present working out which of their 2 designs would have the best chance of besting the BAE bid. Leander must be the favourite now. I wonder if something radical and out of the box like a scaled up...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 21:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I agree with a lot of what has been said but one thing I would add is that the a Type 26 is not a like for like replacement for the Type 23 GP or ASW. The RN had the option to build a fleet of world class 5000t ASW and GP frigates for around the £500m mark but decided to build a fleet of 7000t globe...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 21:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)
Replies: 587
Views: 42894
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Astute Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (RN)

I firmly believe that RN are missing a trick not getting involved in AIP technology which appears to be becoming more and more effective as the years pass. If an AIP Sub is good enough to penetrate an American Carrier Battlegroup on multiple occasions without being detected then in my opinion it mus...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 11:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I agree, the Type 31e could be made more effective in the ASW role in subsequent batches but would it ever be as effective as a Type 23, if not that becomes a degradation of capability and should not be welcomed. My view is the Type 31e is good programme based on a solid operation requirement for a ...
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 09:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243168
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Up to 4 bids, who are the other 2? Maybe Spartan?
by Poiuytrewq
19 Mar 2018, 09:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9601
Views: 361617
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If the Type 31e is not an ASW platform, why would RN want more than 5?
by Poiuytrewq
18 Mar 2018, 18:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243168
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Is the Kareef that the Leander is based on Merlin capable?
by Poiuytrewq
18 Mar 2018, 14:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243168
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

If the Type 31e is built without a Merlin capable flight deck when even the River 2 OPV's have one then the whole project will be a farce
by Poiuytrewq
18 Mar 2018, 08:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 243168
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Why would BAE design the Leander without a Merlin capable flight deck when the River Batch 2's are Merlin capable?

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