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by benny14
15 Jun 2018, 04:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 829
Views: 58523
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (Army)

Lord Jim wrote:send troops into harms way without the best equipment available is just not acceptable.

If the Army gets what is in the equipment plan, they are going to be very well equipped.
by benny14
13 Jun 2018, 23:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10281
Views: 803065
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

She's spending a surprisingly long time at anchor... :problem: They were originally delayed by a power issue, and they were replacing a diesel head on a main engine yesterday. Engine might be playing up. Or they might just be doing some post refit trials. Seems to have moved out of Penzance at abou...
by benny14
11 Jun 2018, 16:32
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 829
Views: 58523
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (Army)

Looks like Athena.

by benny14
11 Jun 2018, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10281
Views: 803065
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Marine Traffic has Diamond near Invergordon in Scotland now. Can't be either Daring or Diamond then. Diamond: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/ho ... 30/zoom:10 Must be another ship then. Diamond is apparently FRE up in Scotland and Diamond left Portsmouth this morning. Dragon was last around t...
by benny14
11 Jun 2018, 15:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10281
Views: 803065
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

SKB wrote:However, her escort "Daring" (not!) has dropped anchor in Penzance Bay

I think that is normally HMS Diamond.
by benny14
08 Jun 2018, 20:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

RN working closely with our possible Type 31 at Baltops this last week.

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by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 19:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Don't forget the nukes come out of that too The life extension for the missiles is £250m. I would not imagine the nukes are more than £500m. I think they said it was "only" £11.2b What was the statement they made, I cant find it anywhere. Puts on tin foil hat for this part* Just messing w...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 17:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What price are we expecting the next 5 Type 26s to come in at?
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 17:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So, regardless of 1.25B being underestimated or overestimate, increase in T31e cost results in decrease in T26 cost. What I meant was, they could have potentially had the money left for a 9th and 10th Type 26 or part of it, but dedicated they would rather have the increase in hulls instead. So we d...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 16:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think the second batch of 3 will be ordered in 2022 in and around the time they start Belfast. As for the 63 billion over the 10 years 2016-2026 we know HMG has earmarked 31 billion for the capital cost of the SSBN program and has put aside 10 billion in contingency but how much of this will be s...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 16:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote:by reducing the T26 number?

He is saying what if the pot of money for the Type 31 is larger than £1.25bn, but they are trying to see what they can get for £250m per ship, and then add stuff on to it as options.
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 15:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I don't expect many will be paid for by 2026. The T26 is being built really slowly (treasury's favorite trick), the gaps between Glasgow, Cardiff and Belfast are 2.5 and 2 years respectively. With Glasgow been delivered in 2026, you really expect that they will not have ordered an additional batch ...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 14:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

A guesstimate. In that time BAE will have built 2.5 Frigates, and started assembling the 4th. By 2026 they are going to most likely all be paid for. Conservatively, lets say £800m for the next five. Type 26 = £4bn Type 31 = £1.25 FSS = £1bn £6.25bn minimum. I am sure there are plenty of other thing...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 13:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

shark bait wrote:3bn for the T26

Where are you getting that price from?
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 13:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Equipment support tends to be a little less than half of the equipment budget, so can we assume 9 billion for support, lets also assume a generous 3 billion to bring the carriers into service. That leaves 7 billion for non carrier capitol expenditure, spent on what? Here is the actual breakdown of ...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 13:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Is it true? When the review board asked RN, they answered so. But, it was on the timing of standing up of T31e program. It may potentially have split in to its own pot by now. It will be whatever money was left over from the Type 26 program after budgeting for 8 ships. May be more than £1.25bn, dep...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 12:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote:Note; the diagram lacks the name of T31. I'm afraid it is intentionally. Not saying it is cancelled, but saying its cancellation is still on the table?

This has been stated many times. The Type 31 budget still comes under the Type 26 program.
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 12:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

shark bait wrote:What are we missing?
All of the escorts will be paid for in that timeframe.
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 12:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Will people STOP quoting the massive picture...

shark bait wrote:That leaves 7 billion for non carrier capitol expenditure, spent on what?

Type 26, Type 31 and FSS.
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 12:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

£19bn in 10 years? where on earth is that money going? That's a billion pounds for each escort and each carrier The carriers are already paid for. Purchasing wise, it will be the Type 26, Type 31, FSS, and whatever else they are planning on buying. The rest is support costs for the whole ship fleet.
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 11:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 551017
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So on the 6th of June Guto Bebb is on record as saying HMG is spending 63 Billion pounds on the RN over the next 10 years Does that include the dreadnoughts though ? If so then there's not a lot going on the fleet really Submarines is £44bn, Ships is £19bn. £63bn in total. https://i.gyazo.com/13afd...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 09:32
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)
Replies: 246
Views: 27187
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

I think that one was ZZ330 on flight RRR9101, it had the red RAF 100 logo on the tail. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfAmDl0XcAM24rY.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfAuf21XkAAiyQb.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfA4S7FXcAEx64_.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfBfbkEWsAIjktj.jpg:la...
by benny14
07 Jun 2018, 01:07
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)
Replies: 246
Views: 27187
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus A330 Voyager (MRTT) (RAF)

SKB wrote:ZZ331 and ZZ335 were used to refuel the four F-35's

A third voyager was involved. It came out of South Carolina and escorted the F-35s up to Canada and then landed there at Gander while the other two took over.

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