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by Jake1992
16 Sep 2019, 16:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It’s a bit miss leading though as we spend a disproportionate amount on our navy compared to the US ( rightly so IMO ) If you look at the army numbers and there equipment as well as the Air Force you’ll find we don’t have a 14% odd make up compared to the US. If we are to compare figures like this ...
by Jake1992
16 Sep 2019, 15:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Mmh not sure if people going to agree or even like this but maybe rn escort fleet getting that small and under equipped that maybe in hind sight it might have been better rn trying not to have 2 large carriers or any carriers all and just have gone for very well top notch escorts and subs and not t...
by Jake1992
15 Sep 2019, 20:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?
Replies: 151
Views: 17856
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?

Not sure where to post this but this seems as good a place as any. Iv been wondering with the recent showing by BTM of their new Ellida concept could this be aimed at the proposed HADR platforms for the DFID by HMG? If equipped with a large medical facility ( modular or permanent ) these could be sp...
by Jake1992
15 Sep 2019, 09:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

- Given the focus on the challenges of resupply, will the “FLSS” part be focused on Aviation and Solid Supply Support? Back more towards the JSBL requirement?. This was spoken about up thread with the showing of the Ellida concept, I did mention that this concept was very much like a KD with what i...
by Jake1992
15 Sep 2019, 09:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Yes, I think they'll get 24 Camm, and I'm almost certain they'll get the space for the 8 ASM's, but not the actual ASM's (upon commission at least, hopefully they'll get them later down the line) I think we could very well get them with the transfer of equipment from the T23s, we have 13 sets that ...
by Jake1992
15 Sep 2019, 07:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Yes, I think they'll get 24 Camm, and I'm almost certain they'll get the space for the 8 ASM's, but not the actual ASM's (upon commission at least, hopefully they'll get them later down the line) I think we could very well get them with the transfer of equipment from the T23s, we have 13 sets that ...
by Jake1992
14 Sep 2019, 23:00
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1329
Views: 102143
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

Do we know yet for sure what variants are being ordered and what are just maybes ? To me it needs to be wide ranging for the strike brigades to work, something like this in varying numbers. - APC - Command & Control - Reece - IFV - Recover & Repair - Logistics - 120mm Mortar - Anti Tank - 15...
by Jake1992
14 Sep 2019, 09:22
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1478
Views: 121839
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

150 Challenger 2 with the upgrade seems too few. It might be sufficient perhaps if the direct fires version of the Ajax was purchased though. Not that I realistically expect that to happen at any stage. IMO I can see the army holding off on any 120mm Ajax ( even if allowed them ) until they get a m...
by Jake1992
13 Sep 2019, 21:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

One thing I have been wondering on the A140 design is how come they went for 2 small boat bays side by side and not one larger bay that could can 2 small boats nose to nose or one larger boat ?
by Jake1992
13 Sep 2019, 16:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3008
Views: 216527
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

We have seen the Thai B2 design fitted with 76mm and decoys plus a mock up of the second Thai navy B2 with anti-ship missiles so it is doable but why the RN would want to go that far is the question that grabbing me . We have talked in past about what could be done with a B2 and what could fitted a...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 23:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

It’s a complex area and being flexible I think will be key. It will demand a need to be constantly engaged in areas we consider a priority simple because it can change so rapidly. I don’t think we can go barging into the domain with both feet without knowing what we’re getting into. Controlling the...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 22:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

It’s a complex area and being flexible I think will be key. It will demand a need to be constantly engaged in areas we consider a priority simple because it can change so rapidly. I don’t think we can go barging into the domain with both feet without knowing what we’re getting into. Controlling the...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 21:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

A fwd presence vessel able to facilitate the arrival of a actual fighting task group. As I’ve mentioned this a few times I think it wouldn’t surprise you that I think this concept just about nails it. Can you expand on your idea of how this would fit into the Royal Marines new Littoral Strike Role?...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 21:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1019
Views: 78656
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

dmereifield wrote:
ArmChairCivvy wrote:
Caribbean wrote:budget was £1.6b
Costing in the option (for a 3rd)?


Isn't +£500 million awfully expensive for a solid stores ship? I.e. twice the cost of a T31 and 2/3rds the cost of a T26?


I was thinking this, it’s what nearly 4 times a Tide class.
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 14:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

250 troops. Its 350. Very similar to a Bay or the Prevail MRV. two of these for one (the option) of the "carrier-sized" FSS? Money talks? I would be amazed if it isn't being considered. The argument for building three FSS is clear but if Fort Victoria is retained could a staggered build o...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 12:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Rather off topic but I can't see the Waves being replaced in RN service. I agree (they are on the "sales" list). The singletons will be serviced from frwrd bases. The frwrd bases will be serviced by a dedicated tanker that can deliver all the "57 varieties" in one go (and top up...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 10:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

not very good for a FLSS but good enough for a wave replacement. Agreed, but 1000 LIMs, 250 troops... or a hospital! Configurable between these, and when we are not doing anything From The Sea, then they won't be idle but can be working at sea (supply) - two of these for one (the option) of the &qu...
by Jake1992
12 Sep 2019, 10:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 731
Views: 72433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Interesting new design concept from BMT. Could this provide another possible FLSS option to rival Prevail's MRV? https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/dsei-2019/2019/09/dsei-2019-bmt-unveils-ellida-amphibious-tanker-multi-role-auxiliary-vessel/ The specifications aren't clear at this stage but the f...
by Jake1992
10 Sep 2019, 12:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 342
Views: 40641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

The answer is the same for both of these and that is they operate under a CVN air wing This is not always true. A US Marine Expeditionary Unit is equipped for independent expeditionary operations. If the operation demands it they will operate with a Carrier Group, but it is not a requirement. Regar...
by Jake1992
09 Sep 2019, 14:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 342
Views: 40641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Why would you bother? Why does the UK need more aviation capacity when all the UK's naval aircraft can fit on a single ship? I don’t buy this as a reason, yes the QEs have the space but with the likelihood that only 1 will be available means it’d be very limiting in both space and location. Both co...
by Jake1992
09 Sep 2019, 13:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 342
Views: 40641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Why would you bother? Why does the UK need more aviation capacity when all the UK's naval aircraft can fit on a single ship? I don’t buy this as a reason, yes the QEs have the space but with the likelihood that only 1 will be available means it’d be very limiting in both space and location. Both co...
by Jake1992
09 Sep 2019, 13:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 342
Views: 40641
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Why not an aircraft deck lift to the vehicle deck were the rubb hanger currently is IMO that’d be the worse way to go as it’d still have the problem of being in the way of the work deck yet then take away space from the vehicle deck. It’d also be expensive along with the fact that maintaining aircr...
by Jake1992
09 Sep 2019, 10:26
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1329
Views: 102143
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

Carrying on from yesterday’s post it’s being reported now that MBDA are showing off an unmanned version carrying 6 brimstone each.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/dsei-20 ... d-vehicle/
by Jake1992
08 Sep 2019, 21:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10689
Views: 651906
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would add that from listening to and reading material on asw from people who do it, it is a not a case off one design catches all. There is a difference to hunting ssn, ssbn and hunting ssk. Type 26 is designed around hunting the former, a140 along with other designs could be, if equipped correct...
by Jake1992
08 Sep 2019, 18:57
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1329
Views: 102143
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

Now this is what we need on our boxers, it’d not only give your heavy and medium formations what they need but really give the strike brigades part of punch needed.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mbda-sh ... no_cache=1

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