And would winning the Aussie bid help with selection for the Canadian contract?donald_of_tokyo wrote:Design export (T26 and 90m OPV to Thai) and ship export (90m OPV to Brazil, Khareef to Oman, and (may be) Leander to Qatar) are different issues.
But,
Anyway if T26 were to really be selected as SEA5000, it is great!
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- 20 Jun 2018, 13:11
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5461
- Views: 1464643
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- 20 Jun 2018, 12:28
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5461
- Views: 1464643
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
So will Type 26 end up selling more in exports than the Type 31e?
- 02 Jun 2018, 08:12
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
- Replies: 1972
- Views: 547339
Re: Future Solid Support Ship
Jesus, just tried to read the version Ron5 linked to, and I thought some of the Robo translations on You Tube were bad. Regarding the contract, my view is the same, If Babcock and BAe can build the ships for the same price as an overseas builder, with support form the DTI if necessary then that is ...
- 22 May 2018, 09:21
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5461
- Views: 1464643
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Personally I think the Type 26 has a great chance. Politics will undoubtably play a major role in the decision but that may actually strengthen the UK's bid. How much does the Australian government value the UK's defence cooperation in the Pacific region? As we don't have enough ships to send them ...
- 28 Apr 2018, 13:24
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
- Replies: 1972
- Views: 547339
Re: Future Solid Support Ship
Looks like the Government is ignoring Sir John Parker's report. What happened to the National Shipbuilding Strategy? Ignoring what part? This is from his report, "Overseas build brings its own challenges including potential denial of opportunities for the UK supply chain, higher costs of overs...
- 28 Apr 2018, 12:20
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
- Replies: 1972
- Views: 547339
Re: Future Solid Support Ship
Looks like the Government is ignoring Sir John Parker's report. What happened to the National Shipbuilding Strategy?
- 26 Apr 2018, 15:45
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I think T31e shall better be more smaller, to be on the largest end of heavy corvettes. Mission bay is particularly unpopular for export, neither long range/endurance. Export customers can just ban mission bays amidship, and fill VLS there. Also, "looking fighty" is very important for exp...
- 10 Feb 2018, 09:05
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I am starting to think we should give the T-31e a rest until we get a firmer idea of what is actually going to be done. We all agree what it won't be and have a fair idea of what can be achieved with the budget. The result is we are going round and round in circles, raising the same points and havi...
- 01 Feb 2018, 08:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
According to the Times, the Government has managed to create a £21 billion black hole in the defence budget.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -3nnj22xqr
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -3nnj22xqr
- 03 Jan 2018, 07:48
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (1998-2018) (ex RN)
- Replies: 1195
- Views: 366861
Re: Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier (LPH) (RN)
The money doesn't go straight to the rn, or any service that has a piece of their equipment sold. Its handled through the disposal agency (DESA). IIRC it goes back to the mod to be respent but not automatically with the service that used that bit of kit. Desa sell everything surplus bar housing sto...
- 04 Nov 2017, 07:21
- Forum: Political Discussions
- Topic: Defence Secretary
- Replies: 89
- Views: 5237
Re: Defence Secretary
and his cowardly tactics May be he is planning to do a "Theresa May" and walk back to the party leader/ PM job at the point in time when all the other contestants are corpses, each with a knife sticking out from the back ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJFiByfiRTA He will probably be g...
- 19 Oct 2017, 12:40
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8469
- Views: 2142429
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
That's a well developed opponent your referring to there. For that we have a big ass carrier with 20+ F35 on board, that trumps any other surface unit that doesn't have and american flag on it. The Wildcat is there for taking on the numerous coastal navies around the world, the ones with no, or a v...
- 12 Oct 2017, 08:57
- Forum: UK Defence & Aerospace Industry
- Topic: BAE Systems plc
- Replies: 191
- Views: 15556
Re: BAE Systems plc
Could there be a chance, albeit small, that the recent announcement of job losses at BAE, specifically listing a lack of Typhoon and Hawk orders, is a ploy to 1) provide political cover to HMG for approval of a second batch of Typhoon to Saudi Arabia, whom swoop in with an order at the last minute,...
- 08 Oct 2017, 15:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5977
- Views: 1500180
- 08 Oct 2017, 10:27
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5977
- Views: 1500180
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Suspect it's the usual well announce 2 to be cut and then they'll be relief when it's only one. What losses me off is the belief it's the RNs fault - it was the government pouring funds into land based forces in the early 2000s that did this mess and a complete lack of understanding how we trade an...
- 07 Oct 2017, 13:18
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5977
- Views: 1500180
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Maybe from a resources and manning point of view we looked seriously at what is tied up in the Nuclear deterrent and were realistic for the sake of the fleet and the armed forces as a whole and got rid! Since this Government moved the nuclear deterrent into the defence budget, it has sucked a huge ...
- 28 Sep 2017, 12:28
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5461
- Views: 1464643
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Afraid not. Disappeared with the cuts.2HeadsBetter wrote:Do newspapers not employ sub-editors any more? Jesus!
- 13 Sep 2017, 19:51
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The way things are going, we will be using nuclear missiles on Somali pirates because we won't have anything else left.Zealot wrote:Its our Nuclear Missile Boats which stop us from being invaded and/or attacked, never going to happen.
- 13 Sep 2017, 19:43
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Given the way that conventional forces are being slashed, i would prefer to get rid of the nuclear missile boats.
- 13 Sep 2017, 18:13
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
First Sea Lord openly talking about removing platforms. I'm not sure what will be left.
http://www.defensenews.com/digital-show ... ech-surge/
http://www.defensenews.com/digital-show ... ech-surge/
- 10 Sep 2017, 09:02
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The Government is coming into some criticism about its ability to help in the BVI. Whilst not discussing the merits of the criticism it does seem that the Americans, Dutch etc appear to be better equipped with helicopters somewhat larger than a wildcat and one wonders what sort of aid a small friga...
- 06 Sep 2017, 07:12
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8469
- Views: 2142429
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/09/06/britain-orders-fleet-budget-battleships-deal-boost-shipbuilding/ If this is true, some bad news....the order is for 5 hulls and the cost will be capped at £250 million per hull..... "Under the National Shipbuilding Strategy, Britain will buy five ...
- 04 Sep 2017, 09:16
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8469
- Views: 2142429
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
If the UK government insists going down the T31 light frigate route (and putting aside enhanced B2 River or Venator 90 for a MHPC ship) then my vote goes for an envolved Khareef. By envolved I mean the same size, but with similar system / survivability changes the RN made for the River, plus 127mm ...
- 19 Aug 2017, 17:31
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19147
- Views: 7056280
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
UK RN T31, if its cost is 250M GBP, while that of T26 is 750M GBP, is 33%. (if 1B GBP, 25%). This sums up perfectly why the T31 in its current form will be a waste of money, as there is zero chance IMO of a £3.5bn budget (67% of a 750mn T26 for 6 ships, plus a conservative 500mn design budget) - ha...
- 12 Aug 2017, 12:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5411
- Views: 1420145
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
In this option, of course the modification cost, Wildcat number, and the whole man-power are the issue. But, this option is directly related to abandoning APT-S escort, which will release ~3.5 hull equivalent. In other words, it will make it possible to disband two T23GP now, use one 180-strong cre...