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by Caribbean
21 Apr 2019, 11:04
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)
Replies: 304
Views: 20050
Location: England

Re: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)

Dahedd wrote:Using a wildcat or merlin as a plain guard is surely a waste of platform

Surely a navalised EC135/145 or AW109 (all of which we already use), equipped for SAR would be an ideal (and cheap) fit for this task.
by Caribbean
20 Apr 2019, 10:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If we go with the A140 some people dream, my view is that there will not be any funds for the fancy UUV / USuV stuff we are talking about. Why? Ever thought that the T31 budget of £250m/ ship was set that low, so that money from the shipbuilding budget could be moved elsewhere (by my "back of ...
by Caribbean
20 Apr 2019, 00:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Arrowhead140 is big but how flexible? Lets start with "more flexible than Leander". The A140 has four boat bays (don't look particularly cramped to me) for USV/ UUVs/ ships boats and can easily carry a Merlin-sized helicopter/ maybe even land a Chinook. It has room for multiple TEU-si...
by Caribbean
19 Apr 2019, 18:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ArmChairCivvy wrote:or future proofing its options by going flexible, by going big?

If they pick the A140 :)
by Caribbean
19 Apr 2019, 14:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Submersibles the size of XLUUV are intended to be pier-launched, not deployed from another surface vessel. We are developing smaller systems that are deployable from anything with a 11- 12m boat-bay, currently for MCM, survey and surface operations, but ASW is on the list for future development. The...
by Caribbean
19 Apr 2019, 09:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would agree with Sir Humphrey, and also add that I believe that large autonomous ASW systems will fill the "ASW corvette" niche in the future. And that smaller semi-autonomous unmanned systems will transform the ASW abilities of all platforms that have the space to carry them.
by Caribbean
17 Apr 2019, 07:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

dmereifield wrote:That's more T26 size than T31 though, right?

Not if we select the A140 as the T31e. The BAE "T31e" (i.e. the BAE Corvette) was proposed for the corvette part of the competition and rejected
by Caribbean
16 Apr 2019, 21:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote:But Brazil has selected wide-hull MEKO A100-based corvette

Yes - they have selected a Meko design for their corvettes but, under the PROSUPER plan, still have a requirement for five 6000t frigates (and a support vessel).
by Caribbean
16 Apr 2019, 08:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But it is very difficult to find other candidates. Off the top of my head, I would suggest Brazil, Chile and New Zealand as potential customers Arrowhead hull is "even a Estonian ship builder can do" job. the steelwork for most RN ships could be built by "an Estonian ship builder&quo...
by Caribbean
14 Apr 2019, 15:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9736
Views: 519082
Location: England

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

topman wrote:Not sure where you get occasional foray from?

I said "occasional expeditionary forays". I don't consider operating from an established overseas RAF airbase (Cyprus, Falklands, etc) as "expeditionary".
by Caribbean
14 Apr 2019, 13:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9736
Views: 519082
Location: England

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

deploy 30 aircraft out 30 to two different locations at the same time Is it me, or does that comment highlight the difference between RAF and FAA thinking? As in, the RAF is largely a "static" organisation, with occasional expeditionary forays (at great difficulty and expense - hence the ...
by Caribbean
14 Apr 2019, 11:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 542
Views: 25659
Location: England

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Now you are being silly. Is anyone suggesting that these vessels are manned by raw recruits that have never seen a sonar before? Training is a continuous process, covering the full spectrum from basic training to upgrading the skills of experienced operators in the light of new developments (the mil...
by Caribbean
14 Apr 2019, 10:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 542
Views: 25659
Location: England

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

You don’t send people who are training to your priority task they need to be combat ready Agree with covering the priority tasks first, but tell me, if the T23 currently carrying out this duty does detect a lurking Russian submarine, waiting to track the deterrent as it sails, do they immediately t...
by Caribbean
10 Apr 2019, 17:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5791
Views: 201865
Location: England

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

The cost of any Refurbishment required properly lies with the Ship Builder, even if the RN does act as it's sub-contractor for refurbishment. And, probably more significantly, transfers all responsibility for the reconditioned equipment to the ship builder (along with all responsibility for mainten...
by Caribbean
10 Apr 2019, 07:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5791
Views: 201865
Location: England

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

It’s subtle, but this from yesterday’s Hansard is possibly slightly less absolutist on the question of price. To be fair, right from the start, their have been hints that more money might be available if industry could show good reason why they couldn't meet the price point. I've always seen the £2...
by Caribbean
03 Apr 2019, 07:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 9736
Views: 519082
Location: England

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

So its a rotatory AESA? I have not been able to see anything official stating Artisan 3D is AESA. Hi Brasil, have a look at this document - the link below should put you into the section on Artisan. There is also some stuff on Sampson as well. It's a bit unclear in places, presumably because some s...
by Caribbean
01 Apr 2019, 19:49
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: Containerised armament
Replies: 8
Views: 663
Location: England

Re: Containerised armament

Lord Jim wrote:Now NATO has to track every Russian registered containership as well as those allied to her. I really hope this is something linked to April 1st. :thumbdown:

The way things have been going recently, I think the Russians have already got a good bonus system going for tanker captains :twisted:
by Caribbean
31 Mar 2019, 16:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 578
Views: 26542
Location: England

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

The Makassar class is 122 m by 22m beam has a flight deck , hangar, dock and cost 45 million dollars = 34.5 million pounds I think we could the ship above i.e 160m by 24m with what we want on it for 50 million pounds each = 65 million dollars if built in South Korea A stretched version might be a g...
by Caribbean
31 Mar 2019, 13:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 578
Views: 26542
Location: England

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Even better we have 5 such vessels of similar configuration. One wonders why we are playing about with other build programs Perhaps because one of the 5 is tied up, one is "permanently" deployed to the Caribbean (Mounts Bay on 3-year forward deployment), one is in the Gulf supporting the ...
by Caribbean
31 Mar 2019, 11:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 542
Views: 25659
Location: England

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

I think that ACC's quote, above, highlights the expected capabilities of the FLSS nicely. I think we all go a little carried away when it was mentioned that it could form part of an amphibious assault. As I see it, there is a subtle difference (ok, not so subtle) between the function of an amphibiou...
by Caribbean
29 Mar 2019, 07:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 542
Views: 25659
Location: England

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Though, in the current year, the hole appears to have been filled on an "ad hoc" basis, with further "small" sums (£1.8b? so far) being granted on a non-recurring basis. I suspect that the Treasury wants to keep it that way for now, rather than formally increase the budget, as it...
by Caribbean
28 Mar 2019, 20:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9297
Views: 292379
Location: England

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

BMT did a thorough study and concluded 120m length was the minimum for a global blue water They also decided that 105m was about the smallest you could go and still self-deploy globally (able to sustain a transit in up to sea state 8, with (just about ) acceptable speed, slamming and rolling - and ...
by Caribbean
28 Mar 2019, 19:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2645
Views: 103345
Location: England

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Ron5 wrote:"corvette" is too darned frenchie sounding

Maybe we should call it a "freedom frigate" :D
by Caribbean
27 Mar 2019, 22:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2645
Views: 103345
Location: England

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I know people will say the Leander is another variant, which is true to a degree When one considers that "Leander" is offered in four lengths (99, 102,117 & 120m), one of which is exactly the same as the Khareef, I think it's clear that Leander is entirely a "pimped Khareef"...
by Caribbean
24 Mar 2019, 22:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5791
Views: 201865
Location: England

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

I had heard it mentioned that those making the decisions felt part of the reason type26 budget got so big was the charge rate and build man hours BAE were quoting was way beyond what could be considered reasonable and one has to wonder is that’s whats being tested with arrowhead 140 We are of the s...

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