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Should have been rewarded with a voyage to the Red Sea, followed by a “encouraged” invitation to “walk the plank”.

What is a Type 321 Frigate, Dusty Bin?

Become totally ineffective!

Did not realise that they were that subsonic!

I said WW3, not Armageddon. A limited (and in theory, more survivable) WW3 is the sort of Scenario that you have described. There is no need for it as a second strike weapon, as your “likely targets would in all likelihood have been destroyed already. More likely use is for a Military Target either ...

Starting WW3?

Stern Section! Unless the “shed” is so small, that the hull has to be built in 3 x sections to be joined together outside. The earlier photographs of the hull taking shape inside the “shed” do not suggest that this is so. The upward slope referred to with regard to the section outside may simply be ...

No, that would mean we only get 1.

Gate Guardians at RNAS Culdrose, RNASYeovilton and RAF Marham sounds about right to me. They are joint assets after all.

That would probably be Project Cloud Nine though!

Which makes it all the more criminal that 8 x Merlin HM1 are languishing in inactivity, when they could (and should) have been brought up to HM2 standard to provide additional Airframes for the additional (to Merlin) Crowsnest role.

How do you propose to fit 10 x sets of NSM to 11 Ships.

Remote (Automated) Damage Control sensors not detecting the problem perhaps?

Absolutely Fine, but I would not want to see them acquired (or given) to the RN, only to have them passed to a “third party” Navy.

Flies in the Ointment:- 1) Although there are no doubt cost savings to be had due to efficiencies of scale in the build process, there is also the operational cost of the 2 or 3 extra Frigates for the RN to find. 2) The T23 are already being pushed to a point that is beyond what is reasonable, so no...

No it is not required. The Submersible Barge would need to be used in any case to lower the vessel into the water if it had been completely assembled within the “Shed”. Only difference if being ‘joined” in No.1 Dock would be Floating the two sections into it. (Not required if joining the two section...

Put it into the basin via a submersible barge and float it iinto the dock (a similar process was used for QEC, but in this case without the need for a coastal transit).

Two Red and One Green?

Portsmouth Shed would seem to be just the right size for building T4x, whether Destroyer or Cruiser. It would also be co-located with the T45 “Centre of Excellence” and Base Port. It would need the necessary workforce though. : :

Some media even describing as Warboats !?!?

Or build in two halves and join together outside!

Or Bob the Bruces.

Could not have put it better myself!

All well and good, but it will not be an adequate replacement for WESTLANT21.