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Is PoW getting an MCM escort out to sea?

If so, then the “Builders/Contractors” Sea Trials should prove VERY interesting indeed.

Tomorrow in the Forenoon then?

If Babcock do build a Frigate Factory, we shall have to hope that it has an adequate growth margin to build the next generation(s) of escorts for the RN, but not by so much as to become a millstone to the company or unduly affect the viability of the T31 build costs and company profits.

Deserving of a proper Broadside!

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So, in order not to offend anyone, presumably you probably also think that we should also rename Waterloo Station. If people (either at home or abroad) are so sensitive, then they deserve (and need) to be offended, iif only in order to grow up.

How about the "Battle" Class ?

Unfortunately this would not work, but ....... She has been in the water for about 15 months less than HMS QE was when commencing her Sea Trials, so her bottom should be cleaner (smoother) and a higher speed may therefore be possible.

Me too!

So where would the 9 x Merlin ASW from the QEC go to, when it becomes necessary to Increase the F35 numbers to “Surge” (36) on the Carrier?

I wonder whether R09 will prove faster than R08 whilst on her Sea Trials?

So let’s have 18 x T26 then and 6 x “batch 2” T45. Oh, but because we only order in small numbers they use a unit cost based on that. The paymasters then say “we can’t afford that many and downsize the order. A self generating race to the bottom with not enough vessels being built. The number of Rat...

I suppose we will have to wait for WESTLANT ‘20 for there to be any Merlins from 849 NAS on board!

Just like the way the rest of our “defences” are being mismanaged.

In essence then, all of 617 sqdn. (as presently constituted)!

The example of the Maginot Line should be sufficient proof for you that they do. Of course, you may say that there is not enough money in the budget for this. I agree that much more needs to be spent, but treating NATO as the solution to world problems, when many of its member states do not provide ...

I believe it will have a 127mm Gun

The idea behind the T31e was for it to have an RN service life of only 10-15 years and not be significantly modernised during that time. Let us say that this is how the first batch will be treated. The second and subsequent batches ??? might be turned out to a higher standard and cost (for example a...

The one thing that must not happen, is for Politicians to ever believe that a River B2 can either be (or replace) a frigate.

However, if sufficient escorts were being built, with a Navy of the size that it needs to be then there would be more than enough work for two yards, maybe even three!

Roll on the Astute batch II's!!! When those that are supposed to be responsible, start acting responsibly and order another (much needed) batch and also provide the people to operate and maintain them. Cut the manning, reduce the number ordered & delay the programme, all to "Save" mone...

Boats have crews, Ships have companies.

Never to you apparently.

No, but the Remoaners are still trying to scare people (and companies) into believing that it will. Hence lack of business confidence

It is a shame that the MOD did not use the delay in the placing of the T26 batch 1 order, to build something that the RN really needed, rather than the B2 Rivers, namely ships 7 & 8 of the T45 Daring class. Oh but then then HMG would have had to admit that they had made cuts in error in SDSR 201...