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Where the hell did that “A” come from !!!!!!!!!!

A 2 x Carrier Strike Group would require 6 x F435 Front Line Squadrons! Now that would be a sight for sore eyes (especially if all were FAA).

And effective at spreading the virus!!!!! If particles were to contact any nearby “ persons”.

Not when there was the Admiralty, War Office and Air Ministry.

No need to think in terms of 7 hour sorties ........ 2-3 hours would be about as much as it could be .............. without A2A refuelling, that is. Regretably, we don’t have any organic A2A assets either!

SW1 wrote “And if you don’t have 40m or .5billion over 10 years?”

Then you are not receiving enough money from HMG to provide adequate defence of your country!

Only if the Carrier has been sunk or disabled THEN.

Especially if one worker in two scives off to take photographs, have a fag or whatever.

One that is really “in the the thick of it”. Fighter aircraft providing defensive cover for a Carrier in a very high threat environment, when as many sorties as are needed will require to be performed.

When they are not in the Dockyard!

So what do you do when you need to deploy individual (escort type) ships? Rob either the CSGs and/or the LHA/LHD of it’s protection. Would you send an inadequately protected Carrier into harms way, bearing in mind that we only have two of them? No you would not, so at that point you might as well no...

Quite what all this has to do with “Current & Future ESCORTS”, I have no idea except for the mention of a Patrol Sloop. Fact: To be a Navy and possess critical mass one needs ships. So what the hell do people think they are doing making an argument for less ships for the RN! Today’s RN Fishery P...

14 or 15 F35b! If they don’t know where Australia is, it comes as no surprise that they can’t count either.

Surprised they don’t want to deliver it to Gibraltar, or perhaps they plan on taking NI hostage against the return of Gibraltar?

Not enough ships and not enough capability. Due to not enough spending. We need the gaps to be filled!

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But the ships that once provided the connection (to wherever may have been required) are no longer available in the numbers that would be necessary. An early indication of the then forthcoming “Euro-blindness” and lack of strategic and tactical vision.

Well, if only we could be an island again,. Were it not for the mistaken construction of the CHANNEL TUNNEL”, we still would be.

Robbing every ship of it’s ha’porth of tar is what is really going on here! We have some good ships, even if there are far too few of them. What is inexcusable is the penny pinching that is leading to inadequate or insufficient weapon types and size and load-outs of VLS Systems. If you are going to ...

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Or USS Midway! A Buccaneer or two on Hermes and a couple of Sea Vixens as well would have been appropriate, in addition to the Sea Harriers and Sea Kings.

So we would not have any OPVs in UK waters then?

So are you saying that HMG would rather use the new T31s as UK EZ police vessels instead???

Shame that they could not have waited until next year! Photographs taken during a photo op with HMSQE and former HMS Hermes would have really been worth seeing.

I would not be surprised if 2 x new “Bay” like vessels are what emerges, even possible that 2 of the existing bays get modified. Yet another mistake by Cameron, selling the fourth Bay to Aus. No forward vision, let alone ignoring the rear view as well!