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Yes does seem strange as they are watching every penny & could of added the LMM at a later date,

Perhaps they were going on looks as the 40mm is more aesthetically pleasing or maybe they got a discount on the 40mm,

Would the 40mm have a better development path in the future ?

The testing seems to have paid off, do we know if any F-35 will be seen during this deployment? Seem to remember reading that QE will meet up with some in the north sea late may or june for pilot carrier training, but could be wrong. interesting listening...https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-lat...

The way I look at it ( probably wrongly! ) maybe they are trying to establish a presence with the river b2 ( as we have so few frigates aswell ) to see if it rocks the boat ( no pun intended ) then when the T31 "patrol frigates" are availiable replace the rivers ?

I still hope that we can have a modified ( as you say a common work bay, HMS etc ) better equipped batch 2 version & sell off cheaply the first batch if there is a buyer, would NZ want some nearly new "patrol frigates" for 150m a piece?, just accept that they had work to keep people em...

Would rather be on a QEC carrier watching the aircraft taking off !!!

SKB wrote:https://twitter.com/HMNBPortsmouth/status/1257231704877600769

Glad they said that, I could see the headlines from some over inflated journo "britains biggest warship sinks of the coast..."

Sorry if this is a stupid question or mentioned before, could the gun mounts be used for the combination gun+martlet system as tested a few months back? & could that account for a delay fitting to the carriers as they are making up there minds ?

Seems like people moving near airports & complaining about airplanes ! but might just be hype from 1 person..

As I said it would be impressive if in 2024 a UK carrier group took part in RIMPAC 24 a real training opportunity to work along side Allies Would seem a good opportunity to show case a QEC and further UK & USMC F35b carrier integration, and would look good alongside a Canberra LHD, Japanese Izu...

super secret helli-carrier mode Just across the pond to show a busy carrier, then fly to navada, maybe a stop over somewhere to refuel or inflight?

Maybe they will "push the boat out" and do a short 24 plane uk only F35b deployment in 2024 just to say they can....fingers crossed but not holding my breath...

How about they do that when a Red flag exercise is on ? showing up in style

Well if that is the case, the deck will look busy !! which will be a good sight to see might save on salt corrosion if we only send Extra jets on deck when absolutely essential !!

If money was no object i'm sure the carriers would be full, but due to lack finances that is a valid point of if we sent 20 x F35b for a flag waving exercise, how many would be used & would they not be better utilised elsewhere, sharing is never easy !! if the crap hit the fan they could always ...

Hi topman, interesting post. what I was thinking the carrier could be prioritised one year ( Global Britain, show some presence ) then the RAF land based operations be prioritised the next year as we have to share the aircraft between differing commitments ? I admit I don't know the ins & outs o...

Is this the sort of thing you mean Tempest 414 ? With 48 x f35b if we have a carrier going out on a 6 month deployment every year ? (when the UK has 48 F35 after 2025?) for example QE going out as a strike carrier in yr 1 with 20 F35b, ASW merlin + crowsnest, yr 2 POW as LPH, 10 x F35b, ASW merlin +...

Argos inbound to Devonport via save the royal navy twitter page , Got that one WRONG...2 + 2= 3

jonas wrote:

dmereifield wrote:RFA Argus departed Devonport this afternoon...

Whereabouts on the Thames will she be mooring.

Maybe the Excel center....?

Probably because the gov has got no money...but one day we could see something maybe a STOVL UCAV ? with the capability to do the AEW or refueling in one design ? wouldn't need to be fast just a longish endurance.. don't think we would get anything before the late 2030's/2040 That makes me think, co...

Maybe the gov will think of it as PR to help out the ship building industry ? and then as a reserve on intensive care beds for the NHS if the worst happens again....

Not the most efficient way to give aid but very visible

Trivial question here but a diversion from the end of the world news. Whenever I see a photo of a Type 45 there always seems to be more of the black hull paint showing under the forecastle than further aft. Is there any particular reason for this? My uneducated brain thought it might be because the...

Sounds good if a few could be built, would rosyth get the contract after the T31 or are these ships going to be built before?

If we could get both albions back then that would help having another major warship available, then you may be able to get an Albion + escort or a QEC + escorts in rotation in both regions, atlantic + EOS

For a moment there when the cons was looking to go CATOBAR I was hoping for QE as a LPH with a few F35B (like the 1st America class LPA? ) then pow as a fully fledged CVA with borrowed hawkeye's ! I'm sure it wouldn't of worked out that way, but....

Ron5 wrote:The silver lining to this, I guess, is that the T45's will have a longer life due to this spell of inaction.

Don't give our gov any ideas of delaying yet another replacement program....

It would of been built, but...wasn't (a) invincible going to be sold to OZ in the early eighties?
I do like the idea of of 3 X 50 k carriers, enlarged cavours but at the time of design things were so different financially, glad Gordon brown done something good