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by RetroSicotte
18 Feb 2020, 13:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

However we are close to getting a good ship for global patrol duties as said T-31 has long legs good sea keeping plus the boat and helicopter capability of a frigate with the sensors and weapon fit plus crew numbers of a heavy corvette this allows us to say we are here and watching and if needed we...
by RetroSicotte
18 Feb 2020, 13:17
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)
Replies: 146
Views: 25732
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

https://www.janes.com/article/94360/uk- ... -from-2021

Another major capability to be lost with basically no intent to replace.

First RAPTOR, then Sentinel.

They just do not care.
by RetroSicotte
18 Feb 2020, 08:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 242521
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Ah, there's that term again "more flexible".

MoD speak for "less capable".
by RetroSicotte
18 Feb 2020, 08:49
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1721
Views: 180958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Germany is unlikely to leave at this point. They have openly acknowledged that France gets the lead and the majority workshare/design influence already. It's assured by that Germany gets the lead and the majority workshare on the new MBT in return to make up for it.
by RetroSicotte
18 Feb 2020, 08:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It assuredly won't be. T31s purpose is to be claimed to be a first rate ship by the Government. No it is to allow it to be called a Frigate end of They could call it a battleship if they wanted. I'm not debating its "right" to be called this or that. I debate its lack of capability. But i...
by RetroSicotte
17 Feb 2020, 14:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It assuredly won't be. T31s purpose is to be claimed to be a first rate ship by the Government.
by RetroSicotte
17 Feb 2020, 09:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I've seen no such report yet.
by RetroSicotte
13 Feb 2020, 08:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11168
Views: 1129488
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

For those going to see her, best of times. I still remember the MP.net guys of this and its original topic getting me into the trip up to be on QE during her last few months of construction. Incredible experience. Hope to get on board one of them again to see them functioning, and maybe witness who ...
by RetroSicotte
12 Feb 2020, 10:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

should spear 3 be part of the Wildcats weapons list even if the range drops to say 100 Km this could give a frigate a 200 to 400 km precision strike capability that fit nicely next to LMM and Sea Venom That is an angle I'd see as much more viable than a vertical launch version. Saves on VLS space, ...
by RetroSicotte
12 Feb 2020, 01:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Aethulwulf wrote:And my point is that there are credible future scenarios involving small scale operations where F35s or Typhoons or other fast jets will not be present / deployed.

Out of curiosity, such as?
by RetroSicotte
11 Feb 2020, 23:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I don't think it is as niche as you think... 1. A very large proportion of the world's population live within 100km or so of the coast. 2. When faced with the prospect of NGFS (or any sort of artillery), it's amazing how quickly any force learns to be mobile (or they hide within a civilian populati...
by RetroSicotte
11 Feb 2020, 20:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

1: My major motivation (although just a guy in far east) comes from the fact that, SPEAR3 is primarily a land-attack missile. Thus, it will be produced in number, even 1000+. If the air-launched SPEAR3 and VL-SPEAR3 can share the majority of the airframe, it will be cheap. Mass production will neve...
by RetroSicotte
11 Feb 2020, 15:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It is linked to the Littoral Strike concept, for very small scale interventions when a carrier with Apache / F35 is not present. Also, lessons from Libya show that such a capability would have been very useful. But, still quite far from the top of the funding priority list. I realise your last stat...
by RetroSicotte
11 Feb 2020, 15:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It does overlap with SeaVenom (but not with Martlet/LMM). Developing a surface-launched SeaVenom vs add a booster to SPEAR3 and load it in ExLS. I like the latter. My main curiosity is...what is the intended purpose of a surface launched Spear on a ship? What is its target? Is this a solution looki...
by RetroSicotte
11 Feb 2020, 14:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Query - A lot of people repeatedly suggest Spear as a vertical launch anti-ship weapon. In the air, it has about a 130-140km range. From vertical launch that is likely to be MUCH lower. MICA drops from 50km (although I'd seen ridiculous wikipedia claims of 80km lately, likely in the same "CAMM ...
by RetroSicotte
10 Feb 2020, 16:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

In the context of the type 26 city class would this proposal for the Hunter class make sense for the type 26 city class https://www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/sea/the-hangars-on-the-hunter-class-frigates-are-inadequate Sounds like that article didn't do its research, the "doghouse" ...
by RetroSicotte
09 Feb 2020, 14:59
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1721
Views: 180958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Bear in mind, involvement doesn't mean buying the aircraft.

Look at the UK with Gripen.
by RetroSicotte
07 Feb 2020, 10:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6340
Views: 508893
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Aye, we all better take a chill on this thread for a bit till something new comes up.
by RetroSicotte
07 Feb 2020, 08:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6340
Views: 508893
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

As I said at the very very start, the only purpose of this ship is to "look like" a frigate, with a similar sized hull, a gun they can photograph going bang on the front, and the ability to truthfully say "it has missiles". It's only so they can claim they have 13 in PMQs. That's...
by RetroSicotte
05 Feb 2020, 14:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Simply put we all know that equipment across the board in a lot of cases is not up to what we’d all want or what is really needed but you have to work with in the budget we’ve got. I’d love to see HMG turn around tomorrow and as we’re upping the budget to 3%+ plus that’s not realistic. I'm not talk...
by RetroSicotte
05 Feb 2020, 13:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Yes you can put any missiles on any ship as long as it fits and works but the point is no one in the RN is going to logically look at it and go you know what let’s put a longer range AAW missile on the T26 than is on the T45. You're missing what I'm saying. Unless you're going to add Sylver silos, ...
by RetroSicotte
05 Feb 2020, 11:17
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4444
Views: 412710
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Are we not susceptible to the same? Note quite. Western doctrine doesn't rely on giant walls of SAMs pointing in given directions, but on air superiority. That gives you the initiative to be the one launching from an active, moving location at the static, known areas. In theory yes a Patriot batter...
by RetroSicotte
05 Feb 2020, 11:15
Forum: British Army
Topic: The future form of the Army
Replies: 88
Views: 4308
Location: United Kingdom

Re: The future form of the Army

The AS-90 still have a very valid and useful role to play until a suitable replacement is available, which I why I advocate retaining at least one Regiments if not two, each of four eight gun batteries, and keep them as part of the Armoured Cavalry Brigade, but able to be redistributed if and when ...
by RetroSicotte
05 Feb 2020, 11:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Are people seriously suggesting here that T26 with its 48 CAMM and Artisan is not able to provide AAW coverage for itself and close consorts? Even if the range is somewhat limited, 48 munitions vs as few as 16-24 for many other first tier escorts (outside of the US, China and Russia, at least)... Y...
by RetroSicotte
04 Feb 2020, 19:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11165
Views: 846874
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SM-6 has double the operational range than Aster 30 240km vs 120km. Why would we put that on a vessel that isn’t designed for AAW ? I can get onboard with replacing the front mushrooms with extra Mk41s but not for sm-6, IMO replacing the mid ship mushrooms with 15 ExcL and fit them with 30 CAMM plu...

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