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by RetroSicotte
18 Mar 2020, 18:46
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 503
Views: 81372
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

I've removed he last number of posts that went past discussion or debate and just into insult and argument.

Either take it to PM, or be civil.
by RetroSicotte
17 Mar 2020, 16:00
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

Right, I think we got the convoluted story covered, although the army classifies Jackal as recce and WMIK as protected patrol. more specifically a "fire support and force protection Land Rover". But homing onto the other part of the thread header, the Coyote (support) vehicle numbers are ...
by RetroSicotte
17 Mar 2020, 08:49
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

There was no direct clean line of replacement. What was Snatch and WMIK became Foxhound, Jackal, Coyote, Mastiff, Ridgeback, Wolfhound, Husky, Panther, Vector etc etc. And it all came at different times to each other gradually, serving alongside, some done faster etc. But in role, the Foxhound does ...
by RetroSicotte
17 Mar 2020, 08:09
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:I am only being insistent in order to reconcile what was said at the time and what is now being said. So, to that end: which vehicle did the Foxhounds replace? Surely not the Jackals (partly)...

The Snatch Land Rover.
by RetroSicotte
16 Mar 2020, 21:46
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

I must have been reading the wrong news: Jackals of which we have plenty were not mine protected enough (while otherwise v good) - hence we had to have Foxhounds ... plenty pronto (which, just like Jackals are fairly open, which is not the way to maximise ballistic protection) Which part of this di...
by RetroSicotte
16 Mar 2020, 14:41
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 279
Views: 65084
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Interesting, thanks for that spot.
by RetroSicotte
13 Mar 2020, 15:35
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1780
Views: 228581
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The US is not 'years ahead'. They just have a blank cheque, whereas we don't. The UK could easily built a 'Tempest' (or whatever this fictional plane would be called) on its own if it had the same advantages of the US military budget. Very inaccurate. It's not simply a question of money. It's a que...
by RetroSicotte
13 Mar 2020, 08:05
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

As I understood it, Panthers, Huskeys & Foxhounds were all meant to replace Land Rovers.. These things were a UOR purchase for desert conditions in Afghanistan, they are completely unsuited to the Northern European climate. Jackals replaced the WMIK. Foxhounds etc replaced the Snatch. Jackals/C...
by RetroSicotte
12 Mar 2020, 19:26
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

Why are we still pumping money into these open air death traps? You'd rather they still use Land Rover WMIKs? The troops I've spoken to love the Jackal. For its role in light warfare recce, intervention, and counter-insurgency, it's exceptionally capable and assuredly saved many lives while being a...
by RetroSicotte
12 Mar 2020, 12:10
Forum: British Army
Topic: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)
Replies: 49
Views: 12686
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Jackal and Coyote MWMIK (Army)

https://www.janes.com/article/94847/uk- ... on-in-mali

Jackals upgraded with Thermal Masts. That's a HUGE capability leap for their role, and one sorely overlooked for years.
by RetroSicotte
11 Mar 2020, 18:54
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 897
Views: 118852
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

RunningStrong wrote:Yeah, practically the same if you ignore all the ISTAR, survivability and C4I elements. Identical!

What survivability differences are there?
by RetroSicotte
11 Mar 2020, 12:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11359
Views: 1263604
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Hopes on them realising that hardship and choosing to build a line of 6-7 QE class to get an already made design then?

(Zero, but it's a nice fantasy dream)
by RetroSicotte
09 Mar 2020, 16:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11359
Views: 1263604
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Off topic but I assume you are Retro_Sicotte on Twitter? I must admit to having had to step away from a few recent tweets about the QE class, F35B's and how they are doomed to failure and a big mistake by the RN. I've seen you respond to some of the numpty comments though! :clap: Am indeed. I keep ...
by RetroSicotte
09 Mar 2020, 10:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11359
Views: 1263604
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Worth bearing in mind that news author has a notable trend regarding "Buy more little ones!" as his personal line that's turned up many times.

So while considerations are being taken, take articles by him with a pinch of salt as to what is actually being considered.
by RetroSicotte
02 Mar 2020, 15:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 125237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

I think I was being a little too subtle with Mr RAF. I was challenging his unwritten assumption that the MoD budget issues should have to be solved by the Navy alone. Fair, but I think the issue is that there's simply nothing left TO cut. We already saw 2010 drop the forces to below safe minimum. S...
by RetroSicotte
01 Mar 2020, 18:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 125237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

If the NAO report didn’t wake people up to how overspent the budget is nothing will. I’m amazed people still think the lpds survive that long if the two carrier do come on stream. At best both are mothballed. Would suspect the bays are being relieved from there presence duties to either be scrapped...
by RetroSicotte
01 Mar 2020, 13:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 125237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

I understand NAO report simply says, "FLSS is dead". I think if you read it "straight forward", it will be the only answer? Albion replacement will be, I agree, in the 2040s. At least, unrelated to 2019-2029 decadal plan. Rather, (one of, or both of) Albion disbanding could be a...
by RetroSicotte
28 Feb 2020, 17:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Edit - Moved it over to a more fitting topic for this direction :)
by RetroSicotte
28 Feb 2020, 15:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It is a zero sum game when a budget is finite. We spend around $50billion on defence ever year that is plenty to defend the UK it’s considerably more than most. If that means we do less expeditionary then that’s what it means, if it means we don’t do things the same way as we used to do things then...
by RetroSicotte
28 Feb 2020, 10:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If you give them more money it will only be another sticking plaster and a bigger hole 5 years down the line it’s quite clear there are incapable of running a budget. Which would be why the rest of my post said to get people who can. The fact they’ve stuck there head in the sand screamed we need mo...
by RetroSicotte
28 Feb 2020, 08:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It's pretty obvious really. There's nothing left you CAN cut. We said this all back in 2010 that they were already cut to the bone, there was nothing left you could feasibly lose. The ONLY solution in this case short term is more money in the budget, and getting rid of whatever idiots can't keep to ...
by RetroSicotte
27 Feb 2020, 22:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Impressive looks, but compare the price to our T-31s, [according to defencenews] "The four corvettes and the support ship would cost 3.9 billion euros and the two missile boats one billion euros" I don't mean for us to use. I'm meaning having exports. France and Italy's shipbuilding is so...
by RetroSicotte
27 Feb 2020, 19:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Fincantieri-corvetta-Qatar.jpg Italy launching their first Corvette for Qatar. A mini-FREMM basically. A much more sensible way to keep shipyards going. Nail export orders for various classes rather than relying on huge ticket self orders alone....
by RetroSicotte
26 Feb 2020, 16:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 973083
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It was fine for the intention. ie - A powerful ASW ship that had global deployment in mind for when it's not on ASW or carrier tasking. Then as ever, the Governments cut cut cut, and suddenly the 13 ships that would have seen a large class deployment able to have said ships rotating between all duti...

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