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by RetroSicotte
22 Jan 2019, 15:43
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Yes its does. BAE UK still control the purse strings and get the final say on development of new vehicles and systems. A fact that has hamstrung and driven the Swedes crazy multiple times at least since the introduction of the CV90 MKIII . But not what Rheinmetal got. This is a different thing enti...
by RetroSicotte
22 Jan 2019, 14:18
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

That would be a Rm120 L55 smoothbore, that'd be!
by RetroSicotte
22 Jan 2019, 12:10
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

You are obviously more "glued in" on this than I am; why did the German contract to get their tanks (already sold back to the manufacturer, for export) back into service stretch for so long... 3-4 years? I am suspecting that the rounds that only the A7 can handle have something to do with...
by RetroSicotte
22 Jan 2019, 11:14
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

cost the Poles as much as the Challenger upgrade program alone just to try and fix to bring up to a certain standard. e 5 mln a piece vs. our £700 mln divided by X ( the MoD being very coy about what "X" will be) That 5 mil apiece is only the tip of the iceberg for them, unfortunately. Th...
by RetroSicotte
22 Jan 2019, 09:29
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

As for proposals for the CR2 upgrade, I still think we could do a lot worse than getting second hand Leopard 2 and having them upgraded either by the OEM or Rheinmetall who have their own upgrade package. Given what the Poles paid for theirs including the upgrade, spares and so on it would be inter...
by RetroSicotte
21 Jan 2019, 18:04
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Ron5 wrote:What about CV90?

Nothing to do with the UK end of things. Thats all Sweden.
by RetroSicotte
21 Jan 2019, 15:15
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Little J wrote:Is it slightly concerning that both upgrade teams are now working as one... Or do I need to take my tin foil hat off :think:

There is no confirmation that they are yet.
by RetroSicotte
21 Jan 2019, 13:08
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

I mean more it was stated they teamed to work on the CR2, but the article does not state this at all. Given BAE is in a competing team already, it requires an acknowledgement if they are held away from this or not.
by RetroSicotte
21 Jan 2019, 12:18
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1256
Views: 40453
Location: United Kingdom

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Qwerty wrote:Breaking!

Rheinmettal and BAESystems to collaborate on Cr2 upgrade and MIV

https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/rheinmet ... _16512.php


Where does it say about the CR2 upgrade?
by RetroSicotte
17 Jan 2019, 08:41
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1606
Views: 53673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

Lord Jim wrote:The Swedish Air Force received its first RBS-15F missile in 1887

I beg your pardon? :p
by RetroSicotte
16 Jan 2019, 12:59
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 3949
Views: 115406
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

For whatever reason, the gunpod was never supposed to be part of the british IOC. Procurement of the pods was left for later. Part of block IV, unless it is postponed further. Why do I get the feeling this will be pushed back and back until we finally need them desperately... The Government only wi...
by RetroSicotte
15 Jan 2019, 20:09
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 3949
Views: 115406
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

https://hushkit.net/2019/01/15/interview-with-a-british-f-35b-lightning-ii-pilot-semper-fidelis-to-semper-paratus/ Mostly stuff we've heard before, but note the British F-35B pilot stating: "There is also potential for UK to procure the GAU-22/A Gun Pod if needs be" In other words, the UK ...
by RetroSicotte
15 Jan 2019, 08:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

History shows RN should never be underestimated even if heavily outnumbered. This type of phrase pops up all the time, but does it actually mean anything in reality? I think it might be something us Brits say to comfort ourself, but it could be a dangerous attitude. History is good to have, but it ...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 16:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote:Enough for a hostile force to turn around and head for home?

Too variable to say, to be honest.
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 16:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Building lots of ships is highly relevant and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. The Brits are a 20 ship navy, the Chinese have 200+ , in a war of attrition I know who I'd bet on. I agree, it is both relevant and impressive if not slightly disconcerting. But we must not forget how capable RN still is ...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 15:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Its dangerous to underestimate the Chineese as a 'brown water' Navy. I never called them a brown water navy. I referred by green water. I also said that yes, the future may be different. They have aims to it. But I'm talking about the now. As of now, they lack the capability to match the "real...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 14:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Just like the British, who also have a single (new) base, and the Brits haven't sent out a task group in over a decade. Building lots of ships is highly relevant and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. The Brits are a 20 ship navy, the Chinese have 200+ , in a war of attrition I know who I'd bet on. Us...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 14:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Where are their prepared docks? Djibouti Djibouti is the first of many, the Chinese openly claim their expansion is economic only but we know that is not true. Right now china have more ships in the Indian Ocean than we do, have openly said they use SSN's in the region, and is building a Royal Navy...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 13:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This is what we have traditionally told our self for comfort. In reality its a total lie, China has the same ability to operate in the Indian ocean as we do. I disagree. The capability to get a ship to any ocean in the world, and the ability to fight a peer foe in any ocean in the world is not the ...
by RetroSicotte
14 Jan 2019, 13:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 8411
Views: 183988
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Without NATO, UK cannot not fight against Russia, not to say China. There is zero possibility UK can win against China in singleton if it comes to peer-to-peer war. Zero. If Russia and China are the primary threat, and NATO has problem, then fixing NATO is the first thing to do. Depends where on th...
by RetroSicotte
13 Jan 2019, 03:01
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 3949
Views: 115406
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

So I take it that HMS QE gong out on Sea Trials happened at an earlier date than it actually did. Please don't spoil the often good points that you make, by talking tosh and then attempting to justify yourself by trying (and failing) to make a science of it. I have to admit I am struggling to see w...
by RetroSicotte
12 Jan 2019, 02:21
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1606
Views: 53673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

Excellent to see confirmation.
by RetroSicotte
10 Jan 2019, 16:53
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1606
Views: 53673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

ArmChairCivvy wrote:We share the frustration.

And the hope.
by RetroSicotte
10 Jan 2019, 16:26
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1606
Views: 53673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

When they announce it, sure.

But the way it sounds, they just want to do their usual thing. Checkbox military.

Have an AESA on Typhoon so we can soundbite that we've given it one regardless of only a small portion of the fleet getting it - Check!
by RetroSicotte
10 Jan 2019, 16:08
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1606
Views: 53673
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

Also, the previous Captor is every bit as good as it should be... It was as good as could be...on its induction. Right now it's about whats needed, provided you're not going up against someone with top end spectrum stuff. But the idea that it's on par with modern AESA radars still to be introduced ...

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