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by abc123
16 Sep 2019, 19:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5662

Re: 76mm Oto Melara

On the T31 guns: As addition of two new types of guns (57 mm and 40 mm) looks like a bit in-efficient, I have some proposal. How about carrying two 57 mm, in double end . one at the bow, another on top of the hangar. Arrowhead 140 has an additional "top-space" at the back end of the Merli...
by abc123
12 Sep 2019, 19:31
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)
Replies: 113
Views: 14461

Re: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

Didn't the Indians wanted to buy a pair of Sentinels?
by abc123
10 Sep 2019, 10:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349433

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Potteries? WTF? :o
by abc123
10 Sep 2019, 10:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 342
Views: 35749

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

The Americans aren't bound by that constraint. They seem quite happy putting their Combat Air Support and Troop Transport aircraft on the same carrier. Why can't the Brits can't operate similar to their American friends? Because USN has 20+ CVN/LPH ships, while the RN just 2. They can afford to los...
by abc123
08 Sep 2019, 16:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Good 3D/4D radar good CMS good HMS good soft kill systsem 1 x 76mm , 2 x 40mm , 24 to 30 CAMM , 8 x NSM , FFNBW 2 x Phalanx Baring the 76mm gun as opposed to a 5” this is what a type 26 will be equipped with at launch. So how can one be built at a 3rd of the cost of the other? Acoustic quietening c...
by abc123
05 Sep 2019, 10:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349433

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

shark bait wrote:
At the end of the day its still not as good as the ship it replaces, with the RN having to accept a capability climb down.


Why not?
by abc123
04 Sep 2019, 10:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10264
Views: 801309

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I think (and I know that you will say I'm wrong) that we might allready see some first cracks between RAF and FAA, about way of use of F-35B... An argument for a split buy IMHO. There’s wide talk now of a split buy, with the B model at around 70-90 airframes and the rest made up of the A model. I m...
by abc123
04 Sep 2019, 10:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10264
Views: 801309

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

I think (and I know that you will say I'm wrong) that we might allready see some first cracks between RAF and FAA, about way of use of F-35B...

An argument for a split buy IMHO.
by abc123
03 Sep 2019, 06:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The other side of that is if they do select the a140 for type 31 it is a fully capable warship hull by any definition and used as the bases for the principle anti air warfare vessel of a professional nato navy and the air warfare system is used by a further 2 nato navies albeit on different hulls. ...
by abc123
02 Sep 2019, 17:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

if these were FFBNW 2 x Phalanx and I-SSWG there become a very good CIW ship able to operate with CBG or Amphib group Yes, but only if money was found to add the FFBNW kit and they sailed as part of a larger group with T45s and T26s. Agreed. On the other hand, can you point me the period from 1918 ...
by abc123
02 Sep 2019, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Ah yes, so T45 isn't one mission? Ocean without a dock, Bay without a hanger, Albion without a hanger, Astute without a VLS, F-35 without ASM etc. I think you misunderstand, by one mission I’m talking about a 1982 fleet optimised towards fighting the Russians rather than flexible to address a broad...
by abc123
02 Sep 2019, 14:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Ah yes, so T45 isn't one mission? Ocean without a dock, Bay without a hanger, Albion without a hanger, Astute without a VLS, F-35 without ASM etc. I think it is all two fold. For 1st-rate war-fighting mission = all good - T45 is single mission AAW specialist. Good . Putting ASW assets on noisy hull...
by abc123
02 Sep 2019, 11:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

That didn't save RN ships in Falklands. And I'm sure that the RN brass trumpeted these ships as "world beating" as today. I mean, they screwed up with the propulsion of T45, but we should believe them everything else? I tend to ignore the word “World Beating” as it is normally newspaper o...
by abc123
02 Sep 2019, 09:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

On the other hand, and I know that this is a heretical thought here, but would that be so horrible? I guess only if you are the poor sod who has to be onboard when there is a war against a peer nation. That didn't save RN ships in Falklands. And I'm sure that the RN brass trumpeted these ships as &...
by abc123
01 Sep 2019, 16:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Fingers crossed that RN can save T26 from being "replaced" by A140 in future, a gray nice looking hull with only a fraction of cost of T26, but also only a fraction in its capability... On the other hand, and I know that this is a heretical thought here, but would that be so horrible? I m...
by abc123
29 Aug 2019, 11:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Must say that I doubt strategic sense of having a RN base in Bahrein, as opposed to Oman? For short legged MCMs maybe not, but when replaced then I think Bahrain will be scaled back. Because, the purpose of MCM force there is Iran. If Iran does something it will be mining the Hormuz, not Bahrein an...
by abc123
29 Aug 2019, 09:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Must say that I doubt strategic sense of having a RN base in Bahrein, as opposed to Oman?
by abc123
28 Aug 2019, 07:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Vanguard Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (RN)
Replies: 103
Views: 14198

Re: Vanguard Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (RN)

The main problems are nuclear disarmament lobby and Labour party (especially under Corbyn). The Coalition went through all kinds of 'motions'... to make sure that all were happy about "alternatives" having been fully looked into. - LibDems and Labour are not that far apart in the latest p...
by abc123
27 Aug 2019, 09:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Vanguard Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (RN)
Replies: 103
Views: 14198

Re: Vanguard Class Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (RN)

This August 3, 2019 (StRN) "Critical Royal Navy submarine refit running late The oldest of the Royal Navy’s ballistic missile submarines, HMS Vanguard is currently in Devonport undergoing major refit and refuelling. There are strong indications the project is in trouble and she will be unable ...
by abc123
27 Aug 2019, 09:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RN anti-ship missiles
Replies: 217
Views: 20779

Re: RN anti-ship missiles

They like us will also be purchasing a support infra structure, though I am not aware of the level of contractor support is being offered. . Many countries around the world are perfectly capable to operate ASMs for 30+ years and extend their life on their own, without breaking the bank. It only see...
by abc123
26 Aug 2019, 19:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RN anti-ship missiles
Replies: 217
Views: 20779

Re: RN anti-ship missiles

Regarding NSM: - Kongsberg has dropped its R&D / plans for VL NSM (they stopped something like 3 years ago due to lack of interest from the market... could probably be revived if things were to change) - As of today, NSM (or JSM) is not getting integrated in the P-8. You bet that Kongsberg / th...
by abc123
26 Aug 2019, 19:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Good thing about CVBG is that she can be retreated back into a safe(r) area until reinforcements arrive. Err, to paraphrase: fire engine arrives on the scene in good time, but then pulls back, for the waterpump to be delivered, on a separate vehicle... in due course? Better than to lose fire engine...
by abc123
26 Aug 2019, 12:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Having Escorts work with a Carrier is a skill the Royal Navy is also having to relearn today. Having a Carrier damaged, be it by a AShM or a trawler with a drunk Captain will be totally unacceptable at a political level let alone a military one. We cannot only use them in benign areas, and will hav...
by abc123
25 Aug 2019, 19:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

We mustn't confuse wartime escort strength to that of peacetime. . Well, during a peacetime, you don't really need any escort. OK, don't need is a big word, but one destroyer and one frigate is enough. As you said, bombing Afghanistan or some similar shithole also don't requires big escort and Neth...
by abc123
25 Aug 2019, 15:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10471
Views: 549145

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This would only work for me as long as the our Carrier and two escorts were joined by three allied escorts to form say NATO Carrier group 1 I think that we had the opportunity to see what's the worth of such allied escorts a month or so ago, when that Spanish frigate turned back before reaching Hor...

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