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by abc123
26 May 2020, 21:47
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)
Replies: 159
Views: 42464

Re: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

shark bait wrote:Mind the gap.

One of the RAF's most valuable capabilities scrapped without replacement.


Russian and US such aircrafts and systems that are 40 years old aren't obsolete, but British 15 years old are? :thumbdown: Disgrace.
by abc123
26 May 2020, 21:16
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)
Replies: 159
Views: 42464

Re: Raytheon Sentinel R1 (RAF)

t he MoD are saying it down to obsolescence ...after 13 years in service....with one of the most advanced sensors aloft... https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/sentinel-r1-to-be-scrapped-next-year-due-to-obsolescence-say-mod/ Yeah, right. :think: Man would expect that with big bad Russia just waiting to...
by abc123
25 May 2020, 10:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Repulse wrote:
abc123 wrote:Wait, I was talking about T31?


Wires crossed, I was referring to selling the B2 Rivers. In relation to your 15 yrs for a T31, not a chance “easiest cut” to make will be extending their RN lifespan.


Yes, but the same thing applies for River B2 as well.
by abc123
25 May 2020, 09:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

15 years RN lifespan for the RN before being sold to another navy seems highly likely. Come on. Considering the perenially shortage of money in the RN, does someone really believes that? :think: It’s was about to be done for the B1 Rivers, they why not the B2s - they are flawed due to a lack of a h...
by abc123
25 May 2020, 07:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Repulse wrote:15 years RN lifespan for the RN before being sold to another navy seems highly likely.



Come on. Considering the perenially shortage of money in the RN, does someone really believes that? :think:
by abc123
22 May 2020, 19:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11500
Views: 1374318

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Ron5 wrote:
abc123 wrote:
Scimitar54 wrote:SRVL


I was thinking that they have given up of that?


You were incorrect. QE's trials last year showed the practicality and usefulness of the technique. It's here to stay.


I stand corrected. :thumbup:
by abc123
22 May 2020, 14:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11500
Views: 1374318

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Scimitar54 wrote:SRVL


I was thinking that they have given up of that?
by abc123
22 May 2020, 10:39
Forum: British Army
Topic: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 1601
Views: 200292

Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)



What's that- a Challenger 2 modernisation or?
by abc123
20 May 2020, 20:29
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)
Replies: 157
Views: 42834

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

Lord Jim wrote:Which will undoubtedly mean new hangers at RAF Waddington as this seems to be the standard practice these days when we purchase a new aircraft. :D


Maybe they afraid of the earthquakes. :lol:
by abc123
20 May 2020, 20:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

There are a number of things I disagree with - perhaps the key difference is I believe the following: - In the future a “Drone Mothership” will be the Torpedo Boat if it’s day, capable of MCM, Survey and defeating (remotely at distance) larger HVUs and expensive escorts / SSNs. - Such ship will be ...
by abc123
20 May 2020, 17:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

You want to send a lightly-armed Sloop to a theater T26 will sink in hours, in an environment a Sloop will be sunk in a minute? Killing 30-40 RN sailers for nothing, because will be sunk in a minute, no time to do any MCM activity. Cheaper is cheaper. In absolute terms, not per ton of course. Other...
by abc123
20 May 2020, 15:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

You want to send a 1 bln. worth ship (one of just 8) in harms way?
by abc123
19 May 2020, 12:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11500
Views: 1374318

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/royal-navy-aircraft-carrier-hms-prince-wales-carry-out-investigation-after-flooding-onboard-2855728?amp Indeed, ship still afloat and all crew safe and well. Cannot believe this footage made its way to a public site but heyho, my lad was not on duty so he w...
by abc123
18 May 2020, 14:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11679
Views: 1076276

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Does anybody knows what could be the cost of Thales Captas 4 sonar?
by abc123
18 May 2020, 10:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11500
Views: 1374318

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/royal-navy-aircraft-carrier-hms-prince-wales-carry-out-investigation-after-flooding-onboard-2855728?amp Indeed, ship still afloat and all crew safe and well. Cannot believe this footage made its way to a public site but heyho, my lad was not on duty so he w...
by abc123
16 May 2020, 12:34
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1911
Views: 237270

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

The point I’m getting at is no matter how wonderful some people think something is if in the case of the Dutch they end up only able to deploy 4 a/c or maybe 6 a/c if they spend more it is getting to the point where it’s nearly irrelevant what it can do given the outlay required to get there . A ne...
by abc123
16 May 2020, 07:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Caribbean wrote:
abc123 wrote:Pitcairn Islands are AFAIK mostly provided by the NZ and they don't need RN presence.

Mostly, knowing their predilection for underage children, they really don't want anyone looking over their shoulders. Fortunately the Kiwis sorted them out


Yep.
by abc123
15 May 2020, 19:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Pitcairn Islands are AFAIK mostly provided by the NZ and they don't need RN presence.
by abc123
15 May 2020, 13:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Trouble is, the UK has no interest in Far East. If it is so, no need to send 2 OPVs. But, at least your government says, they have an interest there. To stop RN sending 2 OPVs, you shall change your government or its policy. It it isn't so, the RN would have more to send there than two OPVs I do no...
by abc123
15 May 2020, 11:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

What are the benefits for what is likely All very woolly, the kinda stuff that could be applied to anything. Reality is there is not specific threat to counter, and no tangible benefit to the UK basing a patrol boat in Singapore. The real threat to stability in the region is China's overlapping ter...
by abc123
15 May 2020, 08:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

"No" it is then. We are part of the FPDA, so hardly a return of the Empire, more of a commitment statement. FPDA? If memory serves me right, that's against Suharto's Indonesia and Konfrontasi? The only game in the region there is China. And that's it. If you want to send UK forces there t...
by abc123
15 May 2020, 07:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

What does sending a patrol boat to Singapore achieve? It's nothing, the British contingent will be an insignificant compared to a city state operates the region, and it sure as hell doesn't make the Brits look like a tough guy in front of China. All it does it make the British look like a sad littl...
by abc123
14 May 2020, 06:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Sending a couple of OPV’s seems a bit too late but it’ll do. They’ll be carrying out operations against pirates, prevention of rogue activities such as illegal fishing or stripping war graves of metals & artifacts, enforcing UNCLOS in disputed areas will tick a few boxes. Ultimately it’s about ...
by abc123
13 May 2020, 14:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Sending a couple of OPV’s seems a bit too late but it’ll do. They’ll be carrying out operations against pirates, prevention of rogue activities such as illegal fishing or stripping war graves of metals & artifacts, enforcing UNCLOS in disputed areas will tick a few boxes. Ultimately it’s about ...
by abc123
13 May 2020, 12:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3309
Views: 371745

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Trying to base a River Class in Singapore would be a pathetic look for the Brits. There are few thing that would make HMG look more out of touch with how the world works these days. This. Especially in Singapore that has 6 modern frigates and 12 Independence class ships, or Australia that will have...

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