https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/15/bae-pushes-to-delay-royal-navy-frigate-to-prioritise-norway/ BAE pushes to delay Royal Navy frigate to prioritise Norway deal Bid to sell submarine-hunting warships to Norway hinges on Royal Navy accepting delays This is completely impossible the T23 ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... se-norway/

BAE pushes to delay Royal Navy frigate to prioritise Norway deal

Bid to sell submarine-hunting warships to Norway hinges on Royal Navy accepting delays

Just a Scandanavian military blogger but more speculation on possible Norwegian interest in Type 26 towards the bottom of this article. Norway wants new ASW frigates and wants them soon They want them to the exact specification as a close ally https://corporalfrisk.com/2024/04/09/to-never-experience...

Also note that there is a programme to replace the Border force cutters right now. Not yet there isn't. It's been delayed by this shambolic Government. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/13/border-force-cutters-migrant-patrols-english-channel/ FLEET PROCUREMENT DELAYS The £224 million procure...

By the way, the Bofors 57mm is a surprisingly large system. I suspect there would be little or no savings in space over a Mk 8. A salient point on the 57mm Bofors. Was met with disbelief some years ago, when I pointed out that its turret is larger overall than the BAE MK 45 127mm. If we were flush ...

Ok, so slightly larger above-deck footprint but nothing like the mass above or below deck.

By the way, the Bofors 57mm is a surprisingly large system. I suspect there would be little or no savings in space over a Mk 8. A salient point on the 57mm Bofors. Was met with disbelief some years ago, when I pointed out that its turret is larger overall than the BAE MK 45 127mm. If we were flush ...

The RAN has the same problems with crew shortages as the RN. So they need to find a way of fixing that before they start building a bigger navy.

They've probably got 10 years before things start getting delivered in earnest and noted that some vessels are going to be optionally crewed - in theory.

T32 basically already doesn't exist. I think the reason for the T32 class is pretty simple. The RN did not want to commit to a T31 B2 there and then (i.e. hand the contract to Babcock), so give itself a little wiggle room by calling it something different (for now) I doubt the RN had very much inpu...

No its nothing to do with Boris. It has always been T31 B2. Radakin has said it is T31 B2. Source? I mean it makes sense but it's not been stated. It has been when he appeared before the defence select committee. To paraphrase what he said. RN were bidding for additional projects and wanted more fr...

No its nothing to do with Boris. It has always been T31 B2. Radakin has said it is T31 B2. Source? I mean it makes sense but it's not been stated. It has been when he appeared before the defence select committee. To paraphrase what he said. RN were bidding for additional projects and wanted more fr...

tomuk wrote: ↑13 Feb 2024, 14:30
No its nothing to do with Boris. It has always been T31 B2.

tomuk wrote: ↑13 Feb 2024, 14:31

Radakin has said it is T31 B2.

Source?

I mean it makes sense but it's not been stated.

I'm honestly amazed that anyone thinks Type 32 is still a thing. It was literally shoe-horned into the 2020 Integrated Review at the last minute purely for the purposes of allowing a scruffy fat liar to boast that he was turning the RN into Europe's leading navy. The scruffy fat liar has gone but no...

I wonder how many aster they have burnt through downing £20k drones… And how confident is everyone now in dealing with a 50 or 100 drone swarm with only 48x Aster and backed up by the 30mm and Phalanx? How would a T45/T23 deal with a surface swarm especially at night with a high sea state? Many que...

The destroyers would absolutely benefit from a modern, smaller and more usable gun. As explained in T31 post 12th December the Bofors 57mm has only a fraction of the firepower of the 1946 Vickers 3" Mk.6, with 50 and 70 caliber barrels, at one time HMCS Saskatchewan A turret 3"/70 fired 1...

Sure! and I need a private jet so I can go surfing in California at the weekends. But much like the Navy needing a third carrier, the fundamentals are so broke there is no reasonable path to achieving this. For example, despite spending over 2 decades consuming itself to build carrier groups, the N...

https://x.com/NavyLookout/status/1734309108088541238?s=20 Utterly obsolete 4.5” Mark 8 needs stripping from Type 45 and 23 and replacing with 57mm Mk 110 ASAP. Conventional NGFS is dead. Multiple cheap drones (surface and aerial) are the new threat. Decent rate of fire and advanced ammo are the key....

I thought £55 million looked a bit too skinny to fit Mk41 across all five ships.

But it looks like the contract is only for "insertion, testing and enhancement", so it looks like whatever is being fitted is going to be GFE.

1) HMS PoW is much closer. 2) It is about a 10 or 11 day sail at 15 knots, add 3 days on because the rediness requirement is for 72 hours, then it could be a two week voyage there. 3) We won't do anything. PoW isn't the high-readiness carrier. She hasn't got an air group and she almost certainly is...

London to Belize is roughly the same distance as London to Guyana, so just over 2 days based on Ark Royal in 1972. Phil R You'd have to average over 100mph to cover 5,000 miles in 48 hours. Ark was already half way across the Atlantic for a visit to New York when she was diverted. She launched airc...

Should sell them and get extra Tide on order. Should crew them and use them. Crew them with? As I have said before we need to look outside the box maybe we ask the Baltic states to find 320 staff between them the Wave's could then be manned on a 1.5 scale and become NATO Tankers operating from the ...

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑17 Nov 2023, 10:51

shark bait wrote: ↑17 Nov 2023, 10:17 Should sell them and get extra Tide on order.

Should crew them and use them.

Crew them with?

Why do you and other persist with this Boris nonsense. As testified by the now CDS the RN were going to pitch for some extra T31 during the IR process and decided T31 B2 was too boring so renamed the pitch T32 and sexed it up with some adaptability and autonomous mothership glitter. The first menti...

Well, if there were around £2.5b available (which seems to be a fairly common estimate of what might be available as a budget for T32) could we squeeze 2 x T26 and 3 x T31 (perhaps without Mk41) out of that? That would be a pretty straightforward path to 24 escorts (it would also give us 10 C1 &...

new guy wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 17:48 Never said on a major escort.

This is the Current & Future Escorts Thread.