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by Timmymagic
22 Aug 2019, 11:28
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

also he is working on the launcher that allows Spear-3 to be launched from anything that can operate Brimstone as the launcher will translate for the weapon I suspect that the common stores launcher will be just for fast jets. Can't imagine that the Apache would be able to deploy Spear as it will n...
by Timmymagic
21 Aug 2019, 10:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 916
Views: 55745
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

So with such a limited number of FSS the easiest way to neutralise a British CSG is to sink or damage the either one or both of the FSS's? Thereby making the FSS one of the UK's highest value targets in a peer on peer or near peer conflict? Once again, our strength in depth appears to be virtually ...
by Timmymagic
21 Aug 2019, 10:07
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

Going with Hellfire would be a stop-gap in any case. The US are about to transition to JAGM, so the British Army can waste some time, but ultimately must decide on either JAGM or Brimstone going ahead. Yes. MBDA's future helicopter guided weapon adds in the capabilities that all the disparate Hellf...
by Timmymagic
21 Aug 2019, 10:05
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

S for choosing Hellfire II or Brimstone 2+, the latter should be the first choice. Whilst the performance data on both is limited, the fact that the latter can be launched form medium altitude form high performance jets may mean it has a higher performance and greater range. I don't think there is ...
by Timmymagic
21 Aug 2019, 09:58
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

As far as I can make out it is a lack of understanding as to what Brimstone will bring to the table they know Hellfire and how it works for them. I think Brimstone 3 has many advantages over Hellfire, especially in performance, but there are a couple of advantages that Hellfire R has over it at pre...
by Timmymagic
19 Aug 2019, 14:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

You might be right but I find it hard to believe a LMM costs more than a Hellfire II. The latest price for Hellfire II (R) is 300 missiles for $30m for Kuwait. Which works out at $100,000 per missile (and that's assuming there are no other items in the contract). I can't see LMM coming in at much c...
by Timmymagic
19 Aug 2019, 11:51
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

other things being talked about was that the aircrews are split over wanting Hellfire 11 or Brimstone still a lot of love for hellfire. Is that anything to do with integration with the platform, rather than the weapon? They are looking at how LMM performs on wildcat but at its per unit cost it woul...
by Timmymagic
19 Aug 2019, 11:48
Forum: British Army
Topic: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)
Replies: 347
Views: 27092
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Apache Attack Helicopter (British Army Air Corps)

Weird. I'm pretty sure i read that the new engines and new transmission actually delivered more useable power than the AH1's combination. That was my understanding. I thought the first time the UK's Apache's had managed to actually use their additional power from the RTM's was in Afghanistan due to...
by Timmymagic
19 Aug 2019, 11:44
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4168
Views: 252611
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

I have to say it left me a little bit like all the old them and us is still very much alive I'm sure the RAF would rather have the F-35A, I'm also equally sure that they'd rather not have to go to sea. But if you give them the real choice of sharing F-35B with the RN or nothing and they'd pick F-35...
by Timmymagic
19 Aug 2019, 11:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10071
Views: 735927
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

SDL wrote:slightly out the loop on news with the carriers (real life issues keep me busy sadly) but was it revealed what caused the flooding that sent the QE back to Pompy early?


Burst seawater pipe. But no further news on damage, if the repairs have been carried out. Presumably all sorted now.
by Timmymagic
13 Aug 2019, 14:06
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: Airbus Zephyr - HAPS
Replies: 127
Views: 14976
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Airbus Zephyr - HAPS

Not much coming out about Zephyr at present, no idea if the flight campaign has continued following the 'incident' or if they've taken a pause (or indeed if it was a UK MoD Zephyr that was involved, as that has become a little less clear or the condition of the craft). But Airbus' marketing campaign...
by Timmymagic
02 Aug 2019, 09:39
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1396
Views: 95506
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Not really surprising, but this decision will definitely impact on FCAS' overall performance. Building in the strength to absorb routine carrier ops means a lot of weight... https://www.janes.com/article/90221/european-fcas-fighter-to-be-optimised-for-carrier-ops Some developments that could impact ...
by Timmymagic
01 Aug 2019, 22:16
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)
Replies: 323
Views: 31582
Location: United Kingdom

Re: AW159 Wildcat Helicopter (RN & AAC)

Surprisingly quiet machines Weirdly one went directly over my house today, I thought it was bloody loud...mind you it didn't appear to have the high pitched shriek that Lynx used to. Each wing can accommodate either 10 Martlet or two Sea Venom missiles. The design also provides additional lift for ...
by Timmymagic
24 Jul 2019, 11:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10149
Views: 486625
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

BJ doesn't give a damn about the forces. I think the only hope is if he's lazy and lets the other Ministers get on with it, like Mordaunt, with a bit of flexibility from the Treasury. BJ cares about votes Are there still votes in defence? I know people still care, but do they actually vote on that ...
by Timmymagic
24 Jul 2019, 11:23
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1396
Views: 95506
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Would Canada be able to enter this arrangement and what would the requirements be? The Canadian's are in a quandary. The recent F-18 purchase from Australia buys them a little time, but not much. Realistically they're waiting for Trudeau to go or back down so that they can just buy the F-35A. In te...
by Timmymagic
22 Jul 2019, 23:09
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4168
Views: 252611
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Among the components being proven was a deployable operations facility, a large secure unit containing the classified computer servers and other systems and equipment to support UK F-35 operations. I wonder how many of these we've actually purchased? Presumably more than 1. But do other nations pur...
by Timmymagic
20 Jul 2019, 11:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RN anti-ship missiles
Replies: 163
Views: 14719
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RN anti-ship missiles

Can't find a great deal of info on that, but they do seem to suggest they have that option. Under 'maritime superiortiy' download sea venom data sheet, see very last sentence. https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/sea-venom-anl/ Sea Skua was sold in a canister version, but to my knowledge only Kuwai...
by Timmymagic
20 Jul 2019, 10:03
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1396
Views: 95506
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Thee apppear to be models of the Boeing proposal, which looks a little different to the Australian concept. Also a new word...Fractionation...

by Timmymagic
20 Jul 2019, 10:01
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1396
Views: 95506
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)



And....the Loyal Wingman is to be called Mosquito apparently, which does make some sense...Kratos and Boeing in the mix to date.

by Timmymagic
20 Jul 2019, 09:55
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1396
Views: 95506
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

https://twitter.com/RAeSTimR/status/1152132890693709824 https://twitter.com/NickdeLarrinaga/status/1152277479677136898 Saab press release On 18 July 2019, the governments of Sweden and the United Kingdom signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) regarding co-operation on future combat air systems. ...
by Timmymagic
20 Jul 2019, 09:48
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1740
Views: 116570
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

The Armchair Soldier wrote:Who doesn't like a bit of BRRRT:


And to think the RAF were actiually looking to get rid of the 27mm on Typhoon...until they worked out that a concrete ballast to replace the 27mm would cost more to develop, trial and field than just leaving the guns in place...
by Timmymagic
18 Jul 2019, 23:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10071
Views: 735927
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

It would be interesting to see either Spanish or Italian harriers, if the latter are still around, visit the Queen Elizabeth as she sails to the far east. The USMC are still the main user of Harrier and will be for some time to come. I imagine its unlikely though as landing a helicopter on a carrie...
by Timmymagic
18 Jul 2019, 15:15
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4168
Views: 252611
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

SKB wrote:Just quoting http://www.ukserials.com/ data. (click ZM section)


Think that they're confusing actual order with MoD plan.
by Timmymagic
18 Jul 2019, 14:49
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4168
Views: 252611
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

SKB wrote:30 more F-35B's are on order: (BK19/ZM153 to BK48/ZM182)


I thought only 17 were on order? These 17 are the last to be ordered under the LRIP's. Any more orders placed will be done as part of the Full Rate Production lots at a low price.
by Timmymagic
17 Jul 2019, 08:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 726
Views: 60068
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

shark bait wrote:No need for Starstreak, LLM has a surface to air capability.


LMM top speed is m1.5 with a range of 6.5km
Starstreak top speed c. M4 with a range of 8km.

Thats a massive difference in engagement envelope. We've got both so why not use them. We'll probably have more Starstreak in stock than LMM.

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