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by topman
06 Nov 2019, 10:13
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
Replies: 1792
Views: 146423
Location: Tokelau

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)

Looks like Germany/Airbus are also starting to look at Typhoon as a replacement for the Tornado ECR. Looks like it will require additional pylons plumbed for tanks in this configuration......and they've added Spear-EW....suspect this is just speculative, but is it signalling German interest? Surpri...
by topman
02 Nov 2019, 08:52
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

The RN is not the US navy a UK aircraft will not operate like a US navy. This obsession will make them unaffordable. V22 “tanking” is an expensive luxury the RN cannot afford or needs. Everyone can come up with exploding penguin hypotheticals to justify anything you like. In the world of finite bud...
by topman
01 Nov 2019, 06:22
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

So you would use two (or more) of them in the AAR role, i.e. one for each F35 on the sortie. Precisely why you'd be stuck with large aar aircraft. if you can fit them on on board, it's not big enough. Speaking more generally to no one in particular: For one offs you can get away with small top up t...
by topman
01 Nov 2019, 06:13
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Typical RAF nonsense. The idea that land based tankers will always be available when the carriers need them is right up there with "we don't need carriers because the RAF can always supply air cover to the fleet" or "who needs carriers to bomb Libya when we can fly missions from the ...
by topman
31 Oct 2019, 16:06
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Typical RAF nonsense. The idea that land based tankers will always be available when the carriers need them is right up there with "we don't need carriers because the RAF can always supply air cover to the fleet" or "who needs carriers to bomb Libya when we can fly missions from the ...
by topman
31 Oct 2019, 15:00
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Scimitar54 wrote:Who and what re-fuelled the 2 x Buccaneers on there way to Belize in '72 then ? :mrgreen:


I would imagine we'd use them for a little bit more than that sort of thing...
by topman
31 Oct 2019, 14:50
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

"as they always have done"? How many harriers were refuelled in 82? They cant guarantee tankers will always be available, especially in a peer conflict. If they could, there would be no point in carriers at all. I think you took that part out of my post out of context. I listed Ops that w...
by topman
31 Oct 2019, 12:35
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Kinda difficult to fit a voyager onboard. The case for tanks ought to be huge, the Range of an F35 is not enough to keep the carriers safe when striking a peer opponent. The tankers will operate from airbases and support all aircraft that need aar whether they come from an airbase or the sea as the...
by topman
31 Oct 2019, 10:28
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

I think I'd be more concerned about getting what we've already got working to its capacity and fully supporting it rather than spending it on things that are nice to have.

Land or sea, it'll be using tankers anyway.
by topman
24 Oct 2019, 12:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

serge750 wrote:The strakes/gun pods helped with the harrier aswell,

Would it be a good idea or feasible to put a parachute to slow the decent & prevent damage & a tracker on the drop tank so they can be picked up by a hellicopter & re-used ?


No not really.
by topman
23 Oct 2019, 11:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Maybe this could be an opening for a British company to develop a low viz fuel tank for the F-35, using composite materials that is affordable and expendable so that the F-35s could operate like some WWII aircraft, carrying the tanks and jettisoning them one empty on the way to the target, increasi...
by topman
22 Oct 2019, 09:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Jdam wrote:Any reason why the weapon bays of the F-35's are always open when they are on deck?


If I had to take a stab, I'd say to allow a post flight inspection.
by topman
12 Oct 2019, 06:11
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)
Replies: 121
Views: 18138
Location: Tokelau

Re: Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (RAF)

I doubt they are that old.
by topman
10 Oct 2019, 17:05
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Scimitar54 wrote:Well with these excuses, just how well are the less than 2 years between IOC (Land) and IOC (Maritime) being used (or squandered). Only around 50% of that time remains remember.


Do you know what constitutes either of those targets?
by topman
10 Oct 2019, 10:35
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

If “three seems reasonable”, then why would the RAF send six to Cyprus (so that the F35b force can find out what it is like and what is needed to operate the F35b from a forward base) earlier this year? Looks like a straightforward case of ‘Double Standards”. You've still got 6 aircraft going onto ...
by topman
10 Oct 2019, 07:11
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Bit of an odd trail out there.

Three seems reasonable, can't run before you can walk.
by topman
07 Oct 2019, 18:40
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)
Replies: 261
Views: 28381
Location: Tokelau

Re: Airbus A400M Atlas (RAF)

Interestingly it doesn't say what mods they did to pass this trial.
by topman
05 Sep 2019, 12:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

By trailing them out there its a good way to keep up some training. Putting in a long distance trail isn't something that you want put together by people that have no experience or haven't done so in some time. That goes for the voyager crews as well. This way you get more training out of one exerci...
by topman
19 Aug 2019, 14:58
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

So when I was at Wattisham I spent a day at Marham which included a great visit to F-35 ground training unit which I can't really go into however what I picked up over the visit was when talking to a RN PO he was very pro F-35b and what it means to carrier strike however when talking to the RAF vis...
by topman
26 Jul 2019, 09:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Also, what weapons are integrated on F-35 now? Just ASRAAMs and AMRAAMS? And Paveway IV. They've been flying over Syria with them. Not a bad combination.One of the joys of the F35 program is that all the planes are the same so in emergency the UK could buy any currently qualified weapons and deploy...
by topman
22 Jul 2019, 18:35
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

bobp wrote:
topman wrote:Four C-17s


When you deploy overseas you need to take a lot of ground support equipment, and other spares with you, and also the squadron ground crew and their baggage, and of course weapons. So 4 C17's is pretty normal.


Thanks for that... :think:
by topman
22 Jul 2019, 15:07
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

Four C-17s :lolno:
by topman
05 Jul 2019, 08:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Unless your line manager is a micro-managing prat like mine. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk You know what they say, people manage the most complicated thing they understand. I didn't know line managers had to sign off on mt requests. Ours are booked online, thankfully we get treated like grow...
by topman
05 Jul 2019, 08:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10642
Views: 920865
Location: Tokelau

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

All depends on where you work in the MoD, it's not like as soon as you deviate a hundred yards from the shortest route a load of alarm bells go off in MT. They don't check every journey using tracker against every journey on every vehicle. There's not enough hours in the day. They'll use it when the...
by topman
01 Jul 2019, 06:31
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4348
Views: 334609
Location: Tokelau

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

I very much doubt that the average person on the street will have any interest or knowledge at all in the number of a/c per sqn or numbers of sqns in the f35 fleet.

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