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by mr.fred
19 Sep 2019, 20:22
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Wiki says 12 rockets in 40 seconds, so the additional six take less time than the additional time of a GOAT vs a proper SPG
by mr.fred
10 Sep 2019, 21:25
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 480
Views: 44754
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

8 have always been quoted (does that tally up from the turreted ones?): Only if you don't count the FV524 as turreted The article says 380 ( ) in the original plan .... and as the order of battle has changed, the number of WCSP is expected to be reduced to perhaps 250 to 280 units. But has the cost...
by mr.fred
08 Sep 2019, 21:33
Forum: British Army
Topic: British Army Future Wheeled APC
Replies: 1259
Views: 83319
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

I kind of figured that the plan to make a platoon a combined arms battlegroup was bananas. I might go so far as mixing in IFVs to the platoon, but artillery and SPAA? Commanding that to get the best out of all elements would be challenging. Making the IFV and the SPAA different would be a costly way...
by mr.fred
05 Sep 2019, 20:26
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 480
Views: 44754
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Has anyone spotted that the article link now leads to a 404 page not found? I wonder what that is?

No ironic inflection intended - I genuinely wonder why.
by mr.fred
02 Sep 2019, 19:26
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 480
Views: 44754
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Has anyone heard any more on the the warrior CSP program ? Last I heard it had hit a wall and is in real trouble with Ajax now being considered as a full blow replacement instead. Personally Iv always thought that this would be the best way to go but funding restricted it. There was this: https://w...
by mr.fred
01 Sep 2019, 21:03
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 863
Views: 62152
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

I think what you are referring to is what I would call semi indirect. In this situation at least one of the mortar team can see the target however the mortar itself can be behind cover, in a ditch behind a wall or bank etc. The team member with eyes on then directs the fire much as a MFC would. Wha...
by mr.fred
01 Sep 2019, 19:06
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 863
Views: 62152
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

Direct fire with a mortar is a risky business I fear. It takes longer to establish a sighting picture and is impossible to fire from prone as with an UGL. Rushing a round or rounds is just as likely to kill your own troops. Using it in such a way would be less accurate in my experience with the 51m...
by mr.fred
01 Sep 2019, 14:53
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 863
Views: 62152
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

The days of man packing mortar tubes and rounds are over. In the 'fight fast, fight dispersed' mentality especially against numerically superior forces then you have to be mobile. By that i mean that even light role units will be wheeled and have to shake out and deploy rapidly before moving. At no...
by mr.fred
31 Aug 2019, 21:17
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 863
Views: 62152
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

There is no way anyone would operate the 60mm mortar in direct fire I'm afraid. Soldiers have done just thatfor the past hundred years or so. The firing position would leave the gunner and loader very exposed True of any weapon system if you take up an exposed firing position. Nothing says that you...
by mr.fred
30 Aug 2019, 19:49
Forum: British Army
Topic: Section infantry weapons
Replies: 863
Views: 62152
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Section infantry weapons

Yes but only makes sense if we move to the 120 mm mortar for Coy, Bn, and mechanised units and issue this at Plt level as a 2 man fire team attached to the standard 3 x 8 +4 Plt from the heavy support coy. Otherwise we have 2 light mortars (81mm , 60mm) with overlapping roles. Also, if we switch to...
by mr.fred
16 Jul 2019, 21:13
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Yes, support teams have to rest and rearm, but are they on the same cycle as the rifle companies? Keep the support at a higher level and you can attach to lower level or come together for more concentrated effect Disperse the teams throughout the rifle companies and you can’t redeploy them en masse....
by mr.fred
16 Jul 2019, 19:27
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Organic artillery does mean better co-operation with the sub unit they are part of, but it makes cross-posting them to other sub-units more difficult. If you have one of your companies resting or otherwise in reserve, their support weapons go too. With support weapons at the battalion level you can ...
by mr.fred
15 Jul 2019, 23:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

I’m not sure about this company level business, when you can concentrate at battalion for training purposes then attach to sub units as required
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 22:09
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

The 105mm has been a very good weapon but is totally out classed in todays conflicts except possibly COIN operations. Totally outclassed by what? The logical replacement is the latest version of the M777 which has similar mobility but provides far greater fire support at longer range and is more fl...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 21:12
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Voldemort wrote:Obviously best case would be all four, 81-105-120-155. Finland is moving to 81-120-155 in the near future.


Why keep the 81mm?
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 19:52
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

I don't think there's anyone on this planet could legitimately look at the Royal Artillery's capabilities right now and say with any sanity that sticking to just 81mm and 105mm is the best way forward. One look at Ukraine will evaporate that thinking in an instant. I would say it depends on the con...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 14:10
Forum: British Army
Topic: British Army Future Wheeled APC
Replies: 1259
Views: 83319
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

But why? What is the situation where one of many hand held rockets/missiles or indirect fire won't do the job? A miniscule niche I say. Perhaps, people seem keen on having it, to the extent of suggesting dedicated MBT variants for it. Targets beyond 600m or so, or that require many shots to destroy...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 14:03
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Doesn’t having no guns, or guns with no ammunition, restrict your combat power and utility further?

With the mortars, when do they go from logistics hungry to excessively logistics hungry? What defines when they become excessive?
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 13:38
Forum: British Army
Topic: British Army Future Wheeled APC
Replies: 1259
Views: 83319
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

while a turntable mortar may be cheaper, it is limited. A turret mounted mortar, such as NEMO, has advantages in that it can be used for direct fire as well, plus it’s under armour. Seems to me that’s more valuable for strike since they’re supposed to be moving around, isolated, in unsecured locati...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 13:34
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

I’m sure that I’ve asked before, but why do we need this? Why do we need to encumber our light forces with bigger and heavier ordnance, and bigger and heavier logistics demands? Because of firepower and logistics go hand in hand? This must be a rhetorical question. Where is the gap in logistics? Is...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 12:53
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 128
Views: 9451
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

https://ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=376&p=93270#p93270 We need to make a step change in the weight of artillery we use with the 120mm Mortar replacing the 81mm weapon at Battalion level in most units and replacing the 105mm Light Gun with a highly mobile, possibly air transportab...
by mr.fred
14 Jul 2019, 12:52
Forum: British Army
Topic: British Army Future Wheeled APC
Replies: 1259
Views: 83319
Location: United Kingdom

Re: British Army Future Wheeled APC

while a turntable mortar may be cheaper, it is limited. A turret mounted mortar, such as NEMO, has advantages in that it can be used for direct fire as well, plus it’s under armour. Seems to me that’s more valuable for strike since they’re supposed to be moving around, isolated, in unsecured locatio...
by mr.fred
12 Jul 2019, 14:16
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 829
Views: 58523
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

If you have designed your stowage racks to use the same fixings as your seats then you can just take the racks out and replace with seats.
by mr.fred
12 Jul 2019, 08:38
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 829
Views: 58523
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

Voila! The vehicle can seat 7 dismounts. So it seems to me that both statements : “the vehicle can seat 7” and “the army has only bought ones that seat four” can be true. Mine blast seats aren't exactly bolt-on equipment. I'm fairly sure that mine blast seats are exactly bolt-on equipment. If not, ...
by mr.fred
12 Jul 2019, 08:33
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 480
Views: 44754
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

I didn't think that there had been a production contract so Trials vehicles?

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