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by SD67
05 Dec 2020, 17:23
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

Here's an idea : Cancel Ajax. As part of the settlement give GDLS a contract to put Eagle 4x4 and 6x6 into production in that new factory in Wales. Standardise on Boxer for the 40 t category Replace one contract with one worth a fifth of the value? I'm sure they'll be up for that... 3 billion spent...
by SD67
05 Dec 2020, 17:06
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

The spec sheet says 5.9 litre Cummins B series engine - built in Lancashire for forty years and has powered everything from the Leyland Roadrunner to the upgraded CVRT. . The 5.9L ISBe engine is used in the "old" Eagle 4, whereas Eagle 5 has the new 6.7L common rail B-series engine. Dont ...
by SD67
03 Dec 2020, 23:06
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

Here's an idea : Cancel Ajax. As part of the settlement give GDLS a contract to put Eagle 4x4 and 6x6 into production in that new factory in Wales. Standardise on Boxer for the 40 t category Replace one contract with one worth a fifth of the value? I'm sure they'll be up for that... 3 billion spent...
by SD67
03 Dec 2020, 19:57
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

Here's an idea :

Cancel Ajax. As part of the settlement give GDLS a contract to put Eagle 4x4 and 6x6 into production in that new factory in Wales.

Standardise on Boxer for the 40 t category
by SD67
02 Dec 2020, 01:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If your not wanting a well dock but need to use of a number for unmanned systems then I guess that’s pointing more toward a configuration that looks like the rss david Attenborough or a similar support vessel. But what ever it is, the mind set probably needs to change from what roles the ship does ...
by SD67
02 Dec 2020, 01:34
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

The DK evaluation of JLTV sounds very similar to the reputation of US commercial vehicles - build them cheap, buy in bulk, use for 10 years then throw away/sell on. I think someone has been bedazzled by the list price price which let's face it is often marketing bumpf. Total cost of ownership over a...
by SD67
01 Dec 2020, 19:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If your not wanting a well dock but need to use of a number for unmanned systems then I guess that’s pointing more toward a configuration that looks like the rss david Attenborough or a similar support vessel. But what ever it is, the mind set probably needs to change from what roles the ship does ...
by SD67
30 Nov 2020, 12:13
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1630
Views: 321375
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

Direct Boxer news releases https://www.wfel.com/news/wfel-to-manufacture-boxer-miv-for-uk-mod/1022 Under the recently signed £2.3 billion contract between UK MoD and ARTEC - the Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall consortium - a significant portion of the manufacture of the 500 Boxer Armour...
by SD67
24 Nov 2020, 20:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6795
Views: 1061929
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

It looks like the t31 funnel arrangement, a 57mm up front and no 40mm. I don't really understand it and frankly if the Navy has requested a new class when there's already 2 in parallel build I think there should have been a robust challenge
by SD67
24 Nov 2020, 11:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 888
Views: 211614
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

The way I see it is short term Argus will soon go with no replacement and the QEs + Fort Vic will be tied together so the question is how to provide aviation for LRG on the cheap and gives the best all round for the RN. Option 1 - Bring back the 2 points and convert the to LSS or convert 2 of the r...
by SD67
22 Nov 2020, 20:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Donald-san I'm also concerned about the design skills dissipating, which have been built up over a long period and at great cost, I had a long rant about this on this thread a few months back. Personally I think FSS is the bridge to t4x in terms of retaining these skills. FSS is due mid 2020s, and ...
by SD67
21 Nov 2020, 18:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Proposal-3: Designing "a new UK-own new light frigate" also comes into my mind. UK lacks combatant designing chance by 2032 or later (for T4X). This means, the highly successful BAE T26 designing team can disappear. I think this is a very serious problem. France decided to cut FREMM to de...
by SD67
20 Nov 2020, 15:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Surely it has to be 6 x t45, 8 x t26 and 10 x t31 derivatives; and if T4x is a t26 stretch derivative as rumored then we are basically on a sustainable path with two platforms, two yards on a steady drumbeat out to 2040+. Good result all round IMHO
by SD67
19 Nov 2020, 19:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12823
Views: 1856958
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

IMHO BAE should be encouraged to build the frigate factory tomorrow as a precondition for the final five T26s, and there's an obvious place for it - Rosyth. Lease part of the facility and build a large undercover frigate factory there. You're working alongside the competition - so what. In Osborne S...
by SD67
19 Nov 2020, 17:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6795
Views: 1061929
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Considering that only France did show support against Turkey recently, IMHO it would be stupid for Greeks to buy anything than French frigates... France showing support and actually providing it are two different things as so many Arab nations found out. France sent a Frigate, and is selling a doze...
by SD67
19 Nov 2020, 17:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6795
Views: 1061929
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 & Type 32 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

The graphic in the Daily Torygraph showed Type 26 - 8, Type 31 - 5, type 32 - numbers to be determined. I'm guessing type 32 is a Batch 2 type 31 upgunned with mk 41, it's difficult to imagine what else it could be. Three FSS ship is good news as well, betting on Mersyside, as it fits in with the le...
by SD67
26 Oct 2020, 07:49
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1630
Views: 321375
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

What is there not to like about it? 1. Huge target 2. Thin armor 3. Vulnerable wheels 4. Not air transportable 5. Death trap if faced with any tank produced in the last 50 years e.g. a T55 6. Similar to US MGS, considered after service experience to be a disaster 7. Lack of rationale i.e. what's it...
by SD67
25 Oct 2020, 12:21
Forum: British Army
Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
Replies: 1630
Views: 321375
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)

What is there not to like about it? 1. Huge target 2. Thin armor 3. Vulnerable wheels 4. Not air transportable 5. Death trap if faced with any tank produced in the last 50 years e.g. a T55 6. Similar to US MGS, considered after service experience to be a disaster 7. Lack of rationale i.e. what's it...
by SD67
11 Oct 2020, 09:38
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

The fact that Warrior is out of production 20 years tends to demonstrate that there is no longer a market for it...... You seem to be applying a commercial business case to a military vehicle. I don’t think that is valid or relevant. Warrior CSP will give us 10-12 years if we're lucky - service ent...
by SD67
11 Oct 2020, 08:05
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

We all agree I believe that if the funding was available the Army would end up with two Armoured Infantry Brigades and two "Strike" Brigades, properly organised and equipped to make them effective combat formations against a peer opponent. But the funding simply is not there At present we...
by SD67
01 Oct 2020, 18:17
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

[ Ajax is way more expensive than you list - latest cost estimate is north of 5 billion and the turreted version doesn't yet exist as a production prospect. Reports are the chassis is not strong enough for the turret. That's pretty fundamental. Reports? Or one bloke on Twitter... Also, just to add,...
by SD67
01 Oct 2020, 18:09
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

My objection to Warrior is not cost, it's that it won't work. Putting a new turret on a 40 year old hard worked vehicle is an engineering nonsense. Development started in 2011, if it were going to work we'd know by now Surely the reverse would also be true. If it wasn’t going to work then surely we...
by SD67
01 Oct 2020, 08:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

They're much more likely to get the turrets if Warrior CSP does not go forward, though....which I would have thought is quite an attractive option at this point. You're getting a wheeled, modern, well-protected IFV, and even if the integration costs are a crazy £400 million, you're still saving £40...
by SD67
30 Sep 2020, 11:53
Forum: British Army
Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)
Replies: 761
Views: 153064
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicle Variants (British Army)

It is not half the price if you work out your costs correctly, which is cost per unit of capability delivered, not cost per platform. Upgraded Warrior buys you 10 years at best of marginally competitive capability, likely with component obsolescence problems towards the end of that. Versus 30 years ...
by SD67
21 Sep 2020, 08:47
Forum: British Army
Topic: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)
Replies: 427
Views: 109985
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Multi Role Vehicle – Protected - MRV(P)

M1, Lynx, Boxer, Bushmaster, Hawkei, G-Wagen France looked at Hawkei, but the likelihood of a line in Europe...? It was all about local content for Australia, too, as the type of vehicle is required in numbers. Boxer - Bushmaster have enough cost differential to warrant two different vehicles acros...

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