How much will it cost to buy the CUBEs? How many man-powers will be needed to operate them? To enable it, what asset are we going to sacrifice? Selling another T31 or two? (three remains?) Modular system is good, I like it. But, it will not come "in addition to". But, just "in place o...

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/04/first-type-26-frigate-progresses-towards-completion/ Glasgow is due to be formally named during 2025. Sea trials are planned to start in early 2026, with handover to follow later that same year. Following handover, the RN will undertake a period of train...

Tempest414 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2024, 08:42You attached a link to LCX which is 29 x 6.4 meters I was asking what it offered over say PACSCAT Also I don't think PACSCAT is dead just no money to take it on

Sorry, I missed your point.

PASCAT vs LCX is very different. PASCAT is very complex and expensive craft, LCX is not. Very different.

Really? I see future on it. 100 nm in 30 knots means a bit more than 3 hours on ride. It is a ship to shore connector very different from an LCVP. Speed and sea worthiness are very important and cargo carriage is not a priority. LCVP is more near the mexefloat than this CIC. Any cargo can be carrie...

Really? I see future on it. 100 nm in 30 knots means a bit more than 3 hours on ride. It is a ship to shore connector very different from an LCVP. Speed and sea worthiness are very important and cargo carriage is not a priority. LCVP is more near the mexefloat than this CIC. Any cargo can be carried...

Man power issue is essential. RFA cannot man any FSSS now. To man (even only) 2 of the 3 FSSS, RFA needs 202 crew. Giving away all 3 Bays will release 210 RFA crew. Done. Tides are not fully manned, and there is no redundant crew. If MROSS-2 and MHC-LSV's core crew is to come from RFA, crew of RFA A...

1) CAMM systems are said to be similar to PAMS. If so, and CAMM can be integrated into TACTICOS with no issue, could we not reverse it? Doable. And it will cost as much as T45, of course? This is the whole point I’m stating. I can see no reason an AAW ship with SeaViper on TACTICOS can be cheaper t...

1) CAMM systems are said to be similar to PAMS. If so, and CAMM can be integrated into TACTICOS with no issue, could we not reverse it? Doable. And it will cost as much as T45, of course? This is the whole point I’m stating. I can see no reason an AAW ship with SeaViper on TACTICOS can be cheaper t...

...Thanks, so your proposal is to make an expensive AAW version of T31. Integrating SeaViper system into TACTICOS CMS will cost a lot. Adding the required CMS analyses power will cost a lot. And, integrating Aster-30 missile into Mk41 VLS will cost (or your proposal is to locate Sylver A50 VLS in p...

On T13GP. I will address my view.., 1: Armament level of a GP frigate shall be "aligned" to the threat level. In pre-Red Sea Houthi conflict era, GP-frigate must be aligned to KIPION. The "as-is" armament level of, 1x 57mm gun, 2x 40mm guns, 12 CAMM, with up to 2x Wildcat, is ver...

T31 "as is" is cheap because it is simple. Just it. It’s also worth remembering that for every system added the crew allocation rises. It won’t stay at 105 for long if capabilities keep getting bolted on. Agreed. My main point remains that the U.K. must return to a balanced fleet because ...

As an amateur just trying to explore the surface level costs, it is clear that military spending is confusing at best, misleading even. Babcock apparently has variants of the Type 31 for proposal purposes, and I would be interested in knowing what a Type 31+ or Type 31++ will cost and if it compare...

But, HMS Endurance was not hit. Task for River B2 there is to be an OPV, not as an escort. Contribute to day-by-day presence. More similar to River B1/B2 "escorting" Russian cruisers in the Channel. Of course, even if it is T23 frigate escorting the Russian cruiser, T23 will NOT survive th...

I guess you are proposing to use CEC to control SM-6? In other words, using T31 only as a Mk41 arsenal and SMART-L radar picket? In that case, there is a US destroyer there. In a theater as small as Red Sea, why not the US Destroyer just do the job? "The Americans will do it" is an old mi...

To be clearer I meant the new long ranged SMART-L-EWC (Early Warning Capability) Radar in addition to Artisan. Adding Sampson is an option I guess but suspect the addition of the two will increase top weight too much, plus the fact it will not be able to be positioned high like the T45 means it’s n...

How easy would it be to add SMART-L to the last three T31s? Where it is situated on the Iver Huitfeldt-class looks little changed. Cost wise it looks in the £10mns per unit so with maybe a £100mn upgrade overall. No chance to add Sampson due to the top weight. I understand Sampson is lighter than S...

Two or three T31 for the same £1bn depending on how they are configured would add a lot more. Such a cheap T31, 330 GBP a pop, cannot do any good AAW. I am half a way between you two. I agree there is a clear need for 5 cheap GP frigates. But do not think 10 will be needed. If such money is there f...

Let’s not forget the inflation. Significant it is, especially from late 2022. If comparing cost figures, we need to “correct” them.

Two or three T31 for the same £1bn depending on how they are configured would add a lot more. Such a cheap T31, 330 GBP a pop, cannot do any good AAW. I am half a way between you two. I agree there is a clear need for 5 cheap GP frigates. But do not think 10 will be needed. If such money is there f...

The Iranians have a significant fleet of mini-subs which have really tested the Royal Navy. Agreed the threat is clear. Also UUVs will proliferate further and become a growing threat. What is needed to counter that? Is it a T26 or more likely something deployed from a T31 or T32. A Captas 2 or 4 in...

"T26 for export by even postponing RN hulls" is no problem. - Look at this build chart. Commissioning is early 2027, mid-2028, early 2030, 31, 32, 33, 34 and T26-hull8 commissioning is on early 2035. https://www.navylookout.com/type-26-frigate-construction-and-shipyard-investment-progress-...

Another hull in Tonga. Yet another in Caribbean. And one in Falkland Island.
Not an asset to fight, but showing UK flag world wide. I think River B2 was a great buy, at last.

Beautiful