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by donald_of_tokyo
25 Jun 2019, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3797
Views: 191808
Location: Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

But, MOD decided the delay two times: first time for the 3 River B2s, and secondly for the 2 more. When the "2 more" are ordered, political situation was basically already settled down? So I think the T26 design was really not ready yet . My apologies, Donald, but unless I'm greatly mista...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Jun 2019, 16:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3797
Views: 191808
Location: Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

...T26 delay was caused in no small part by the SNP creating uncertainty in the yards' purpose or future. Without that creating a 4 year period of unknowing, much could have been done, and the wasted money on the River B2s would not have been spent. T26 could have began build years ago, and been in...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Jun 2019, 15:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3797
Views: 191808
Location: Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

People talk of the US missing the boat here. They're not. It's the UK who missed it. By the government delaying so much about just funding the damn thing. We could have had one in the water already. Not sure. (see *1) I personally think RN fleet size is over-sized compared to their budget. There ar...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Jun 2019, 14:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 657
Views: 45809
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

I don't know why everyone is getting excited by this. The mushrooms are frangible as can be clearly seen is these tests. Look carefully. Mushroom is NOT THERE from the canister CAMM is coming out. I finally found the photo of HMS Argyll, the photo taken on 3/3 this year at Malta. All mushroom caps ...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 16:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 657
Views: 45809
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

What "rubber cap" ? This one, at t = 6s to 7s. Mushroom hat been taken off prior to the test, and a "flat rubber cap" is shown. Surely the "mushroom" IS the rubber cap. No. Mushroom is removed BEFORE the CAMM ignition. Please carefully take a look. PS there was a photo...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 16:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 657
Views: 45809
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

Great news :thumbup: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/05/lockheed-martin-details-chilean-navy-type-23-frigates-upgrade/ £135M for three T-23s including pre delivery work and training!!! RNZN Te Kaha and Te Mana upgrade is NZ$ 600M = £310M. It is clearly much more extensive than Chilean T23...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 15:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 657
Views: 45809
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

shark bait wrote:What "rubber cap" ?
This one, at t = 6s to 7s.
Mushroom hat been taken off prior to the test, and a "flat rubber cap" is shown.
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 14:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 278
Views: 14976
Location: Japan

Re: Future ASW

SW1 wrote:Much ASW work done while cruising at 20knts?

Though it was more like 6-10 and quietly.
I guess this is the reason ASW escorts "dash at speed, and listen in slow"? And these USV drones can follow it for only a short period.
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 14:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 657
Views: 45809
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

CAMM reloading photo. https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2019/june/18/190618-hms-northumberland-drones-missile-test?fbclid=IwAR2MEin38vIkIo_T6dgzylSa4228JQ_tu0vcAtdazRjWKdiWWc7YZdWqMBw CAMM20190620s.jpg Actually, I am a little bit shocked.... Tube in a tube .... We know, - th...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Jun 2019, 14:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 278
Views: 14976
Location: Japan

Re: Future ASW

Look at the speed though, that makes operating with a manned fleet almost impossible. Where Sea Glider's do pose an interesting opportunity is protecting fixed infrastructure, because the low speed doesn't matter in this application. The probability of a sea glider detecting a sub is small, so to o...
by donald_of_tokyo
19 Jun 2019, 10:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 369210
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

X-post from Future ASW thread ... "IXblue Unveils SEADRiX USV For Persistent ASW Missions" by Naval News. (Xav-san) Supported by UK, it is a very promising approach. I like it. https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/mast-asia-2019/2019/06/mast-asia-ixblue-unveils-seadrix-usv-for-persistent-a...
by donald_of_tokyo
19 Jun 2019, 10:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 278
Views: 14976
Location: Japan

Re: Future ASW

"IXblue Unveils SEADRiX USV For Persistent ASW Missions" by Naval News. (Xav-san) Supported by UK, it is a very promising approach. I like it. https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/mast-asia-2019/2019/06/mast-asia-ixblue-unveils-seadrix-usv-for-persistent-asw-missions/ DRiX is a 8m long, 10...
by donald_of_tokyo
18 Jun 2019, 14:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 369210
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

From New Zealand thread https://defence.govt.nz/publications/publication/defence-capability-plan-2019-infographic https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/defence-capability-plan-2019-released Interesring part of Navy. investment decisions planned for 2028 offshore patrol Vessel Replacement 201. The Otag...
by donald_of_tokyo
18 Jun 2019, 14:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9631
Views: 369210
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

From T31 thread.... *1: In 57mm case, 3P ammo is standard, as I understand? Think posted before L3 won the USN contract for 57mm Advanced Low-Cost Munitions Ordnance round, ALaMO :crazy: , beating off the BAE ORKA developed from the BAE 3P round. ALaMO costing ~50% more than standard non-guided roun...
by donald_of_tokyo
17 Jun 2019, 13:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 247660
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Given the increase in tension in the Gulf, would people say that a T31 built at the base RFI standard would be capable of escorting Tankers in such an environment? This is asking the Navy to deter a state actor, if the UK is placing this demand on it's personnel the MOD should equip them properly, ...
by donald_of_tokyo
16 Jun 2019, 10:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1818
Location: Japan

Re: Royal Marines boats

Beauty of Archer class comes from its cheapness and simple design. Mk.6 Patrol Boat is much more complex and costy asset (more weapon, much higher speed...), which means either a few times larger cost (purchase and maintenance) or a few times less number of hulls. If mixing with Archer class replace...
by donald_of_tokyo
15 Jun 2019, 15:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 5893
Views: 247660
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Looks nice enough but not much in the way of offensive capability. I agree some of the 5 T31e shall better be equipped with NSM. But, that will be enough. With 24 CAMM, T31 can already contribute to escorting CVTF or RFA fleet. In this case, T31 do not need any offensive capability. If deployed in ...
by donald_of_tokyo
12 Jun 2019, 05:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)
Replies: 59
Views: 5099
Location: Japan

Re: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)

5 Archer Class Fast Patrol Vessels are joining Ballots 2019, including HMS Exploit, of Birmingham URNU.
Who are manning them?
Image
by donald_of_tokyo
11 Jun 2019, 12:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 125851
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

River B1 crew is 30. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~45. River B2 crew is 36. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~60. [EDIT] https://www.forces.net/news/exclusive-behind-scenes-royal-navys-newest-ship ... The ship has been designed and built to enable lean manning - just 34 crew can se...
by donald_of_tokyo
11 Jun 2019, 10:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 125851
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity? It is 30 in River B1 and 36 in River B2. As it is 20% more, we shall expect 20% more outcome. For EEZ patrol, I agree it does not worth 20%. But for Carre...
by donald_of_tokyo
11 Jun 2019, 00:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 125851
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Beautiful shots!

Forth and Medway


Medway at speed!
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Jun 2019, 16:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24698
Location: Japan

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Boeing Orca XLUUV will not be able to be operated from a Bay. The Orca would fit in the Bay's dock - it's only 15m (51ft) long. They are most likely to be operated from shore bases, agreed, but at a pinch, a Bay-class should be able to transport/ launch multiple Orcas (and effectively operate as a ...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Jun 2019, 16:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 125851
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Medway is "Ready For Sea Date inspection complete, and a final thank-you to all at BAES_Maritime. HMS_Medway is ready to sail and becomes the newest ship in the RoyalNavy fleet!". https://mobile.twitter.com/HMS_Medway/status/1137298796067676161 Although minor issue, the HMS Medway turn is ...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Jun 2019, 16:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24698
Location: Japan

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

We are getting far off topic but a Boeing Orca XLUUV costs about £10mn each, so something similar for the RN for ASW protection operating from a mothership/OPV/Sloop would be a good option, though I’m very much in favour of 10 T26s and would see these (and MPAs) as complimentary. No objection, T26 ...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Jun 2019, 15:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24698
Location: Japan

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

... to expand the Tier 2 class to have the numbers (and capability) to perform this role. Not less than 10-12, I would say. ... You may say, ah but we will have the MPAs. We will, but even if their number was doubled they would not be able to cover all of the areas that may be required. Uhm, not cl...

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