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by donald_of_tokyo
13 Nov 2019, 15:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 218875
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)



Beautiful. Bon voyage, Forth.

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by donald_of_tokyo
13 Nov 2019, 14:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2522
Views: 171294
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I take the point on a finite budget, but do not agree with this. The old Fearless LPDs used to have 16 SeaCat AAW missiles back in the day. Also, the whole “landing ship” principle is up in the air - in a lot of ways like MCM it is becoming less restricted to single classes but a role of multiple v...
by donald_of_tokyo
11 Nov 2019, 22:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2522
Views: 171294
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

To avoid stretching the Navy's escort force, the new amphibious platforms are gong to need far greater self defence capability than that of our current platforms. They are going to need air defence and close in defence together with warship levels of ECM and decoys as a minimum. Thanks, great read....
by donald_of_tokyo
07 Nov 2019, 15:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1019
Views: 80044
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Without Government Investment, the NSS in any shape or form is dead. This reminds me that all government has been claiming "committed to XXX B GBP 10 year equipment plan". So, they do commit for it. So, adding a sub-section that "HMG is committed to YYY B GBP 10 year budget for ship ...
by donald_of_tokyo
07 Nov 2019, 14:38
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1019
Views: 80044
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Apparently, if ordered from UK shipyards, the FSS will need to reduce the requirement; only 2 hulls, and with smaller/simpler hull design. UK shipyards claim that, foreign yards are subsided by their government and cannot compete against it. If literary read it, it means South Korean government was ...
by donald_of_tokyo
05 Nov 2019, 23:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Just a matter of how strong you say, I guess. I think both of your are correct in some sense. "Trade off between silent hull with small sonar (presumably CAPTAS-2) vs noisy (or less silent) hull with large sonar (presumably CAPTAS4), and selecting the latter" is the official statement of N...
by donald_of_tokyo
05 Nov 2019, 23:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1019
Views: 80044
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Worrying as a delay will have impact, though maybe the pressure to build in the UK is increasing it may have a silver lining. ‪Royal Navy halts order for support ships as bidders could not meet budget https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/11/05/governments-shipbuilding-adviser-hits-contracts-bu...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Nov 2019, 16:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Looking at the new French FDI (Defense and Intervention Frigate) following the steel-cutting ceremony of the first ship October 24th., previously the FTI (Frégates de taille intermédiaire). ... Leonardo 76mm MG, FCS Thales STIR EO Mk.2 both radar and electro-optic tracking systems, able to fire the...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Nov 2019, 15:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 218875
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

So the 20ft ISO container onboard HMS Medway at DSEI 2019 was, Thales MMCM (Maritime Mine Counter Measure) systems' Portable Operations Centre. Great to see, using River B2 OPV as (part of) modern MCM systems on going. PS There was another 20ft container in the starboard waist. What was that, anyone...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Nov 2019, 13:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As the "full-time trained crew" number is 1400 soul short Once again, not all of the 1400 shortfall relates to sea-going crews, especially as the RN has been pushing to fill the sea-going shortages first. (hence the 1SLs statement that the crew shortage was almost solved, some months ago)...
by donald_of_tokyo
03 Nov 2019, 14:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

From River B2 thread. Read an interview in the recent Guide to the Royal Navy 2020 from Cdr Simon Pressdee (head of the Fisheries Protection Squadron) who announced that the force was increasing from 260 to 480 people. On the face of it enough to man all 5 B2s OPVs and the current force. Not sure wh...
by donald_of_tokyo
31 Oct 2019, 15:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 218875
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

BAES twitter A proud day yesterday as the crew of @HMSTrent formally moved on board the ship that will come their home. ref: "https://twitter.com/BAES_Maritime/status/1189846583858348032" So the 3rd hull has her crew. To my understanding, now RN has 6 River class OPV crewed, 3 coming soon,...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Oct 2019, 13:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

From Lucy Fisher ‏ A quarter of Royal Navy’s 76 ships are inoperable & dragging down Britain’s maritime aspirations, the defence secretary has said. Forget "rule of thirds", Ben Wallace is ambitious to improve availability of fleet. Forward basing set to play a key part "https://t...
by donald_of_tokyo
16 Oct 2019, 10:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2522
Views: 171294
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

as long as whatever emerges from this distributed replacement for the existing LPD class retains 8x LCU's bays to be able to surge ... Currently, RN has only one LPD, so 4 LCU, in addition to 3 on 3 Bays. Even though the 2nd LPD hull is there, RN could not man her, so I’m afraid it will not come ev...
by donald_of_tokyo
14 Oct 2019, 13:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 218875
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

The latest rumours I hear is there are hopes that the 3 batch 1 River OPVs will have their funding extended to allow them to continue to operate in UK home waters to around 2027 (at which point they will 25 years old). This will allow the B2 OPVs to be forward deployed, first to the Falklands (Fort...
by donald_of_tokyo
14 Oct 2019, 12:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3009
Views: 218875
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

They are coming. ref: "https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1183665034506973184" Pictures taken for the UK Defence Journal this morning show three Batch 2 River class Offshore Patrol Vessels at Scotstoun in Glasgow being fitted out. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG05EP8WwAA5lXM.jpg:medium
by donald_of_tokyo
13 Oct 2019, 04:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2522
Views: 171294
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Not clear for me.

LPDs and LSDs are for early entry force, such as RM commando and 5 Para, as I understand.

After the port is secured, Points and STUFT ships are the main tool, not Bays nor Albions.

So, these assets shall be planned with RM and Para, primarily?
by donald_of_tokyo
12 Oct 2019, 04:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3924
Views: 303395
Location: Japan

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

:( RN T26, RAN Hunter class, and RCS version comparison: https://youtu.be/3MrgKRjOCBI?t=98 In short, only 5 parts will change - foremast and radars on it - CMS - Mk.41 VLS arrangement - SSM on top of the mission bay - and SH-60R handing Common, includes: - most of the platform systems (Drive trains,...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2019, 14:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Roders96 wrote:It's an interesting idea. It is always easier to loosen the purse strings if the risk is out of the way, however.
May be manageable if all the hulls are included in a single contract from the beginning. :D
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2019, 14:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But, as this proposal looks unpopular, anyway I will stop here. Would it not be more desirable to front load the units with a larger missile fit - buying time to cement the learning curve and find out exactly how much extra funding would be needed? This way the admirals can make their argument easi...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2019, 14:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The current T23 Sea Ceptor fit of 32 missiles includes 2 command and control cabinets, and also 4 launch management cabinets (one for every 8 missiles). Thanks, very informative info. Across the 13 T23s, that would mean a total of 52 launch management cabinets. Eight T26s, each with 48 CAMM, would ...
by donald_of_tokyo
10 Oct 2019, 14:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

There are three reasons I used the word pathetic: A. Who do you think is listening to your proposals, apart from the other 5 or 6 people who regularly fill this forum with their own fantasy drivel? No one in the RN is paying the slightest attention. No one with decision making powers is reading thi...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Oct 2019, 13:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So on the basis of nothing more than one fuzzy cgi image, you have decided it would be best to remove the primary defence from 40% of the T31 fleet. Pathetic. ?? I am proposing to increase the total number of CAMM missile carried on the 5 T31 fleet (from 12x5 =60 to 24x3 = 72). As my proposal is co...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Oct 2019, 06:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If one hits a rock, your finely wrought plan of one doing this and two doing that and so many doing something else again will just go down the crapper. With only 5 they have to be interchangeable to enable tasking to be doable. And for what? saving a few pennies on cheap as chips CAMM launchers. Gi...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Oct 2019, 00:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10691
Views: 658404
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

.. Also the idea of having sub-classes of Type 31's with some with air defense and some not, is daft. There's only 5 ships total. With tiny fleet numbers, all have to be multi-purpose. Not sure. Full-fat frigate (FREMM/T26), light-frigate (M-class/ANZAC/LaFayette), and surveillance-frigate (Floreal...

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