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by donald_of_tokyo
02 Apr 2020, 16:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Tamar's "Dragon".
What is its origin, I do not know...?
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by donald_of_tokyo
01 Apr 2020, 15:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

At sea, at last!
I understand HMS Severn was planned to be dedicated for navigation training. Is it still that way? Do anybody know?
by donald_of_tokyo
30 Mar 2020, 15:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

NAO Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General Ministry of Defence Defence capabilities – delivering what was promised HC 106 SESSION 2019–2021 dd 18 MARCH 2020 "Current estimated cost - The procurement cost of the three ships originally ordered (including HMS Forth) was £378 million. A fir...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Mar 2020, 12:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Given the issues with manpower within the RFA no one was calling for it to be increased especially as I believe they fall into the civil servant bracket of mod accounting. Then getting of a fort 1 over a Fort 11 would have made more seance as they need more crew 127 v 95 I thought the fort1 are lai...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Mar 2020, 13:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

If the steel is cheap, and all these ships are basically merchant vessel hull based, do we really need to have a common HULL design ? Rather, just having a common propulsion train, common electric power generator, common pumps and fire-fighting gears, common ship-control system, navigation system an...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Mar 2020, 04:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Thanks, Jensy-san. a) more of the escort force to be forward deployed, reducing the need for resupply of solids (and allowing only two FSS); b) smaller supply ships that can restock closer to where the task force is deployed, so wouldn't need to rotate back the UK to take on more supplies and ammuni...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Mar 2020, 03:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

The UK needs Frigates too. A balanced approach must be sought. Yes. But, 5 T31 is a minor fraction of 19 escorts. It is not even 5/19 =26%. T31 is much less capable than T45/T26. For me, 5 T31 is only 10-15% of the escort fleet. On the other hand, the two Forts going away by 2024 is 2/3 = 67% of th...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Mar 2020, 13:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

For me the immediate way ahead should be an order for either one large FSS or two smaller ones. The CSG must be able to conduct a deployment like that planned for next year without having to go into port every couple of weeks. For one thing this makes the SGC more vulnerable as it would give and ad...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Mar 2020, 09:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

The problem I see is if it’s not large enough then it’ll never be able to supply the CSG in high intensity ops so neuters they to a degree. Personally id like to see them keep a larger ( 3 merlin / 1 chinook ) hanger and flight deck making them more versatile especially if they are to be used in th...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Mar 2020, 09:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

SSS never needs well-dock. It takes huge space, large door and pumps to fill/dry the dock. All of which is not needed when used as SSS. It will also make the ship slower = needs larger engine and fuel. Huge waste of money. The well-deck was something of a curiosity on the the NDP concept at the tim...
by donald_of_tokyo
19 Mar 2020, 10:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 140608
Location: Japan

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

It is very negative discussion, I think. SSS never needs well-dock. It takes huge space, large door and pumps to fill/dry the dock. All of which is not needed when used as SSS. It will also make the ship slower = needs larger engine and fuel. Huge waste of money. All in all, with the same amount of ...
by donald_of_tokyo
17 Mar 2020, 00:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 749
Views: 112567
Location: Japan

Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

May be nothing to surprise, but for me, it is new. HMS Lancaster, GP T23 frigate operating Merlin helicopter. These days, even T23 ASW ships sometimes operates Wildcat, and I've not seen Merlin onboard T23-GP hull for 5-6 years (I cannot remember when it was my last seeing it). If this is very commo...
by donald_of_tokyo
15 Mar 2020, 12:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

You’re being hard work this morning!!! :D Thanks. Yes and no. I've read T31 RFI a few years ago, throughly, and this is why I continue questioning this issue, as there is no confirmed info yet. Also thanks for linking Babcocks interview. If I'm correct, he said (14:10- as you pointed) "For the...
by donald_of_tokyo
15 Mar 2020, 10:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Really? If so, it is great. As it is very important, can you kindly show some link? If something internal info, it is also OK for me. Link now added above. I’d normally cite references, but am clearly getting sloppy. The crucial thing is that Type 31 and IH are different vessels. That is why OMT wi...
by donald_of_tokyo
15 Mar 2020, 09:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

But, does it mean Babcock can "sell the design" freely to anywhere = without Danish government permission? Yes. Thanks. Really? If so, it is great. As it is very important, can you kindly show some link? If something internal info, it is also OK for me. At least, from all the open source,...
by donald_of_tokyo
15 Mar 2020, 05:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Babcock may be able to provide Arrowhead 140 design only if OMT agrees (which is unlikely, I'm afraid), but anyway Rosyth has almost no chance to build it. Donald, all the intellectual property for Arrowhead 140/T31 now lies with the UK was my understanding. OMT has zero ownership of the design. Co...
by donald_of_tokyo
14 Mar 2020, 12:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

The Tamandaré class will presumably fill the low-end requirement for the PROSUPER program (though with a larger hull than originally planned). The T31 would probably make a decent base for the larger ships of the high-end requirement (i.e. 6000t vessels), particularly as Brazil wants to develop it'...
by donald_of_tokyo
14 Mar 2020, 03:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 577293
Location: Japan

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

[Notes] This is T31 thread, I know. But, T13 program itself, and for the Rosyth yard to "survive", export is essential. So, export discussion must be deeply related to T31. But, wait. This is NEWS thread. So, I shall move to..... where? --> Sorry, help me admins. :D -----------------------...
by donald_of_tokyo
09 Mar 2020, 07:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 970480
Location: Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Brazilian Tamandare-class-corvettes, contracted with 1.6B GBP for 4 hulls. The price has increased from original 1.2B GBP, but now it says including post-delivery support. Looks like good number to be compared with 2B GBP for 5 T31s. Compared with T31, it looks "similar" in value. T31 has ...
by donald_of_tokyo
08 Mar 2020, 12:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 54
Views: 14106
Location: Japan

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

More details on the UUV contract in Janes. Confirms that it's the 9m S201 (or a variant thereof) that will be leased, initially for 12 months, for trials, with a possible two-year extension. Presumably they will be trying to squeeze as much range , speed and endurance out of it as they can. https:/...
by donald_of_tokyo
07 Mar 2020, 12:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Severn's CO (with navigator) is now onboard HMS Tyne and commanding her. Interesting way of "sharing" crew. In a bizarre twist, our captain (philharper) and navigator (HartridgeRoddy) have been borrowed by hms_mersey for a week to support navigation training. So MERSEY, with our CO in ...
by donald_of_tokyo
06 Mar 2020, 14:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Is there a picture anywhere of a River batch one next to a batch 2 Not good images to compare their size difference, but for example I can find... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDsLkpKXoAAmali?format=jpg&name=small https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/data/511/medium/Forth_Tyne.jpg Note the wid...
by donald_of_tokyo
06 Mar 2020, 14:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Sorry for minor issue. HMS Medway, looks like she move the port-side ISO container to the flight deck. She had it at the port-waist when she left Curacao last week for Jamaica. I guess she is handling it with her 16t crane? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESZp48rWAAA6v6J?format=jpg&name=small https:...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Mar 2020, 13:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3151
Views: 332422
Location: Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Navylookout twitter feed. UK Fishery Protection capability increased. - New Joint Maritime Patrol Coordination Centre - 50 extra fishery protection officers trained and carried by the 4 x UKBF cutters. - Private contract to provide aerial surveillance. ref: https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/123...
by donald_of_tokyo
04 Mar 2020, 01:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?
Replies: 241
Views: 49641
Location: Japan

Re: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?

So you agree there is a need for vessels that can undertake HADR You agree that we don’t respond to every disaster only ones were warrant large enough to need it But your problem is using some of the very large DFID budget to build and fund “aid” ships and believe because they could have a secondar...

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