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by SW1
19 Jun 2019, 21:04
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1358
Views: 71433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

cky7 wrote:Didn’t think the wing looked like a cranked or cranked delta to me when it was mentioned the other day


The airbus concept had this planform.
by SW1
19 Jun 2019, 20:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 269
Views: 14229
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

Linking to my comment on the RM post, are we potentially getting to the stage that getting the 2nd LPD back into active service, which is capable of operating these off board systems (and smaller RM craft) in higher threat environments, more important than the two new FLSSs and even worth sacrifici...
by SW1
19 Jun 2019, 20:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 269
Views: 14229
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

Donald

Yet more evidence of path to sensors not platforms, like carriers have a variety of aircraft so the future will be a ship that carries lots of small craft.
by SW1
18 Jun 2019, 23:31
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1358
Views: 71433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The area I find most interesting is the loyal wingman concepts and the weapons thinking, more simplistic single mission, configurable, modular and could be introduced sooner and be integrated with current aircraft to move things only greatly in the cost capability arena. While there being shown wit...
by SW1
18 Jun 2019, 23:13
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1358
Views: 71433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Timmymagic wrote:
SW1 wrote:A cranked arrow first appeared with what was called the f16 xl.


You could make the claim that it really appeared with the Draken.


It was certainly a early variant of a similar theme
by SW1
18 Jun 2019, 18:57
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1358
Views: 71433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Inch A cranked arrow first appeared with what was called the f16 xl. It was testing a number of thing aerodynamically and how it affected the noise profile particularly in and around airfields relating to supersonic transport ideas. The idea with the planform is to transit at high transonic speed wi...
by SW1
18 Jun 2019, 18:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

I think it goes to the heart of what is the strategic for conducting missions that are not blue water mission which will remain the domain of type 26,45 and the carriers. It’s how the whole range of missions from security, boarding mcm, asw and the like is conducted in the shallows and choke points....
by SW1
17 Jun 2019, 21:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

starting point for a littoral strike group a bay, 4 such patrol vessels, 2 wildcat, 5 scan eagles air vehicles and 80 RM. would require considerable investment to make it happen. Sounds like a job for the LSS (Also not Scan eagle, go for it's big brother, the Blackjack (terrible name) ) Scan eagle ...
by SW1
17 Jun 2019, 20:55
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1358
Views: 71433
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

I appreciate that the Dassairbus is basically a plastic fantasy at this stage, but I can't imagine it will be fun to land on a carrier with that nose/canopy. That’s also the first thing I thought when I saw it. The other think I thought is all these design concepts look big. Not a bad thing but in ...
by SW1
16 Jun 2019, 22:27
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190280
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

A number of articles now reporting issues surrounding f35s that are making there way public https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35/ Lockheed have come out with some answers to the list of issues. Looks like the supersonic issue on B's and C's will affect practically none of the UK's fl...
by SW1
16 Jun 2019, 11:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

Beauty of Archer class comes from its cheapness and simple design. Mk.6 Patrol Boat is much more complex and costy asset (more weapon, much higher speed...), which means either a few times larger cost (purchase and maintenance) or a few times less number of hulls. If mixing with Archer class replac...
by SW1
16 Jun 2019, 11:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

What sort of price per unit would you consider to be realistic for us ? If I remember right the Mk6 is around £12m per unit that comes with 2 x 25mm chain guns, several mounts for GPMG mini guns or light missiles, ramp and recovery system for pacific 24 rhib size systems and a reasonable radar set ...
by SW1
16 Jun 2019, 09:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

Wouldn’t the new USN Mk6 patrol boat fit this role and be a nice fit Yes it would. I do like that type of craft and it is something we lack especially if we looking at focusing on littoral strike/maritime security/choke point protection role. I would wrap it into a more strategic outlook both indus...
by SW1
16 Jun 2019, 09:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 36
Views: 1588
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

With news that the UK is deploying 100 RMs to protect UK ships passing through the Gulf, If they are it’s an interesting development one role returning the RM to there core roots. Though I think it shouldn’t be announced in a Sunday newspaper prior to parliament but then those days I guess are over...
by SW1
12 Jun 2019, 12:12
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190280
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

You would think a plane as sophisticated as f35 would have a override to protect the pilot and get to steady level flight like others do. There aren't any that deploy automatically though, the MiG-29 one was a button press that resulted in a wings level, low rate of climb. But it still needed the p...
by SW1
12 Jun 2019, 12:09
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190280
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

A number of articles now reporting issues surrounding f35s that are making there way public

https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35/
by SW1
12 Jun 2019, 12:08
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190280
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

downsizer wrote:Potential hypoxia?


Given there has been a number of incidents of it reported it may well have occurred seem strange to rule on CFiT so definitely.
by SW1
11 Jun 2019, 23:09
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 190280
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

It looks like the recent Japanese fatal F-35 crash was a CFT. The recovery effort seems to have ceased following the recovery of the pilots remains. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48578178 A troubling conclusion seems a convenient scape goat blaming the pilot when we can’t ask him considerin...
by SW1
11 Jun 2019, 23:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24079
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

we’re building type 26 I would contend that, by building just eight, we are losing sight of that fact. The old yardstick of 10 C1 and 8 C2 frigates is closer to the mark, especially since we now have the carriers for the C1s (and destroyers) to looks after. Or that the old yard stick is wrong or si...
by SW1
08 Jun 2019, 09:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24079
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Caribbean wrote:I think that we should not lose sight of the fact that we will still need warships, in our enthusiasm for the flexibility offered by other hullforms



We’re not in the fact that we’re building type 26 and have type 45 which along with the carrier offers the high end fighting capability.
by SW1
08 Jun 2019, 08:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 298
Views: 24079
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

As I mentioned on the river opv thread the sooner we stop thinking of the bays and indeed the Albion’s as dedicated amphibious ships more as flexible multi role vessels who’s role is dictated by what it carries the better. The utility highlighted is impressive we have the ideal ships but not the sys...
by SW1
04 Jun 2019, 23:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123454
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Or strap some guns or rockets to modified landing craft it was all the rage about 75 years ago.
by SW1
04 Jun 2019, 20:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123454
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I actual think this another pointer along a much larger trend. It is the moving of what was once an area for purely specialist vessels into one that is platform agnostic. Along with mcm capability, hydrographic and an element of asw the equipment we buy is now in iso containers not ships. The most i...
by SW1
03 Jun 2019, 22:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2718
Views: 123454
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

https://elbitsystems.com/landing/wp-con ... -TRAPS.pdf

Being fitted to Kingston class in Canada and apparently the seagull usv.

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