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by Repulse
03 Aug 2020, 19:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3372
Views: 429345
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Joining Sea Guardian operation to begin with, hopefully based out of Gibraltar, but understand the silence due to the politics with Spain.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... deployment
by Repulse
01 Aug 2020, 17:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote:Without armament?


Good question, one that I avoided as the focus should be on what it gives the RMs, which should be a flexible floating base, rather than just a transport ship to get from A to B.

Having said that the armament of the Kalaat Beni-Abbes is interesting with a 76mm gun and 8 cell VLS.
by Repulse
01 Aug 2020, 13:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

This class of ship has a cost of $291 million for maybe around 100 million dollars you could have a 160 meter Makassar class fitted out how we want and would do the same if not a better job Very different ship - better to use the Bays than buy new Makassar class ships. The strategy seems to be more...
by Repulse
01 Aug 2020, 10:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I know I’m going to get flack for verging in fantasy land, but if money was less of a problem I would say the perfect platform for a Vanguard RM Company would be a variant of the new Kalaat Beni-Abbes LPD. It has: - Space for 200-400 RMs - 3 LCVPs - upto 3 larger landing craft - Flexible hangar / ga...
by Repulse
27 Jul 2020, 20:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Overseas Patrol - General Discussion
Replies: 16
Views: 1365
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Overseas Patrol - General Discussion

I wonder where she is going - still Gibraltar?

by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 18:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 12001
Views: 1597112
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

A 70-90 F35b fleet would be great, making the CEPP something serious.
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 16:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 12001
Views: 1597112
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

HERE’s hoping that the fourth F35b squadron will be FAA as well. :mrgreen: Agree, but seems more distant than ever. The only option with 48 a/c would be to have four 9 a/c squadrons, two CAP and two strike. Might not be the worse option - could then operate one QE in an ASW role (with one CAP squad...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 16:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

I can see the QEs being generally used for the following peace time roles: - An ASW Carrier in the North Atlantic (9 ASW Merlins, 9 CAP F35Bs and 4 AEW Merlins) where a Tide would be sufficient. - An EoS Strike Carrier (24+ F35Bs, combination of UK and allied jets) - would require a RFA Solid Suppor...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 15:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

donald_of_tokyo , The current RFA Argus deployment to the Caribbean is a good example of a JSS deployment, equally something like the Ebola crisis in Sierra Leone. Would also argue that a SF operation in Africa would not require a CVF - other places I would agree now a CVF would be needed. I’d equa...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 15:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 12001
Views: 1597112
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Singaporean ones on deck for future FPDA exercises. Given the rumblings about a carrier being based (I suspect part time) out of Singapore, then there is a real possibility. As an aside, I read in this months Warship World that there is a rumour the third F35B UK squadron will be FAA not RAF (thoug...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 14:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Yes, but to do this, we need at least two SSS, not only Fort Victoria. IMO, only if we want to operate permanently a full strength CSG East of Suez with it being part of an allied task group (using USN Supply ships for example) and without it using a forward base like Singapore. Does not seem likel...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 09:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3372
Views: 429345
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I'm also interested in BAE RTK SeaKeeper 709, but have no info Off topic, but agree are interesting and a smaller landing craft would fit in with the Future Commando Force operating Robot Tanks As trialed in Commando Warrior 2019. https://www.baesystems.com/cs/Satellite?c=BAEProduct_C&childpage...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 08:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Moved form Fort Rosalie thread donald_of_tokyo , good points and I do not profess to know all of the answers. Basic facts are that if the carrier is half full (v.likely for most peacetime operations), then supplies/munitions will last twice at least twice as long. Also, with carrier capable support...
by Repulse
26 Jul 2020, 08:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Fort Rosalie Class Replenishment Ship (RFA)
Replies: 43
Views: 4903
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Fort Rosalie Class Replenishment Ship (RFA)

Moved to FSS thread
by Repulse
25 Jul 2020, 13:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3372
Views: 429345
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Well they are part of the Overseas Patrol Squadron - though by looking at the RN page this is limited to the UK EEZ. :crazy: Would be good to get confirmation that HMS Tamar will be based out of Gibraltar. A lot of noise at the time they were ordered, but still think they will give good comparative ...
by Repulse
24 Jul 2020, 14:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Anything is possible, but I think keeping RFA Fort Victoria and dropping at least one Wave is as close to a given as it gets.
by Repulse
24 Jul 2020, 14:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Glanced at the MST brochure when looking at the Gibraltar Squadron replacement boats, the 1100 Submersible looks interesting, wonder if they’ve sold any already?

https://www.mstltd.com/wp-content/uploa ... 16-web.pdf
by Repulse
24 Jul 2020, 11:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)
Replies: 87
Views: 20309
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)

Two replacements announced - slightly bigger, but lacks some oomph in terms of weapons IMO.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/gibralt ... rol-craft/
by Repulse
24 Jul 2020, 07:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Fort Rosalie Class Replenishment Ship (RFA)
Replies: 43
Views: 4903
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Fort Rosalie Class Replenishment Ship (RFA)

Not a big deal, should have been scrapped a decade ago. I wouldn’t be so blasé with such cuts - whilst yes they are old, yes we would have been probably better off saving RFA Fort George in 2010, it is still a significant cut. In the bigger scheme of things probably a cut that can be managed, but i...
by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 17:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Scimitar54 wrote:If there are only 2 x SSS then there can only be 1 x actives CSG! :mrgreen:


Operating purely as a RN CSG outside of the North Atlantic, then yes. But I think the FSS will only be one of the limiting factors...
by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 17:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

donald_of_tokyo wrote:Do RN need SSS?


The answer remains yes, but with some additional thought, RFA Fort Victoria and a working with allies like the RAN, RNZN and USN, then a tapping of 10 years to replace Vic with two FSSs isn’t the worst thing that can be gapped (like MPAs or Carrier Ops like in 2010).
by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 16:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3372
Views: 429345
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Classrooms I understand.

by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 16:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1281
Views: 186613
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Then, mothballing PoW will come up as a "good alternative", I'm afraid. Don’t agree with this - keeping both carriers active is a must, and I do not see the need for a FSS in all roles. Would say that in a ASW role for example in the North Atlantic (9 ASW Merlins, 9 CAP F35Bs and 4 AEW Me...
by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 14:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

SW1 wrote:maybe appropriate to rely on allies in parts of the world were we are not a dominate player.


I think it’s fine that we assume a supporting role in land operations especially in the Far East, however we need to retain the ability to do it West of Suez, so it could be there if ever needed.
by Repulse
21 Jul 2020, 13:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2898
Views: 365921
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

or the army That is an option, and a globally deployable “Strike Brigade” or whatever it’s called after the next SDSR is a must. To rely totally on allies would be a step too far. It would need enough RFAs and Points as part of a restructured Army Logistics Corps however to make it at all credible....

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