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by Repulse
18 Oct 2020, 14:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

The whole concept of the LSG isn't clear to me yet, if fact I don't think it's clear to RN or RM yet either. Whatever the LSG ends up being it will have to be sustainable, affordable and justifiable. As SW1 points out aviation availability is a reoccurring problem especially with the CSG now operat...
by Repulse
18 Oct 2020, 09:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: However I doubt there is enough merlins to have 4 on one.


Would agree, though a mixture of 4 HC4 Merlins / AH1 Wildcats across a LRG would be possible and sustainable IMO.

What would be interesting if the Bays could be adapted to support 1 or 2 Chinooks.
by Repulse
17 Oct 2020, 22:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote:Do we need three?


I’d say yes, one WoS and another EoS with the last in refit / ready to sail from the UK. What’s more we have virtually everything we need now to do it.
by Repulse
17 Oct 2020, 14:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

in your scenario all the specialist amph. shipping would be tied up in LRGs, and the army bde would need to move in the four Points (abt. 10 000 line meters, which then is vehicles and supplies only, and only to a port... the guys would need to fly, just in their boots, and be there at the destinat...
by Repulse
17 Oct 2020, 13:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

ArmChairCivvy , would agree and the point on trials and supporting future designs. The point is though with some thought and maximising what we have (or could have cheaply), we could have 3 ready global LRGs which are as capable as anything outside of the US and probably China. It would require rea...
by Repulse
17 Oct 2020, 13:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Sorry, meant RFA Cardigan Bay

by Repulse
17 Oct 2020, 11:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2977
Views: 462720
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Given the MASTT trials on RFA Lyme Bay at the moment, I think it’s clear that in the mind of the RN the primary role of the Bays will move from one of Logistical Support to that of a Support USV mothership. Probably makes sense, though I can’t help but think that having the ability to transport (at ...
by Repulse
12 Oct 2020, 19:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3624
Views: 545113
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I don’t believe the French have got the memo to say OPVs should not be armed with anything more than a sharp stick..

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... naval-ciws
by Repulse
11 Oct 2020, 16:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3624
Views: 545113
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

No 30mm? What is going to replace it?
by Repulse
10 Oct 2020, 09:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy & Royal Marine Future UAVs
Replies: 7
Views: 355
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy & Royal Marine Future UAVs

That's a measure of length, not weight! The sub measurement of a double decker bus is a an Elephant, which can be divided into smart cars, which then can be further divided into scuba divers. Everyone knows that... https://www-guinnessworldrecords-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/www.guinnessworldr...
by Repulse
04 Oct 2020, 12:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Diligence
Replies: 51
Views: 9426
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Diligence

Unfortunately it seems her situation has recently deteriorated somewhat. Nothing short of criminal. If the RN and the broader armed forces cannot value what they have then the argument to give them more / new kit is much harder. Now we can proceed to discuss the functions; how they are to be covere...
by Repulse
04 Oct 2020, 09:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Diligence
Replies: 51
Views: 9426
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Diligence

Does anyone know the state of RFA Diligence? It might be cheaper to buy / convert a new vessel, but on paper she looks to be a good trials vessel for the new USV MCM kit, and more importantly we have her already. Moving her to the gulf as the MCM (manned and unmanned) mothership would free up a RFA ...
by Repulse
04 Oct 2020, 08:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: RFA Fort Victoria
Replies: 145
Views: 42700
Location: United Kingdom

Re: RFA Fort Victoria

It’s either that or the CAMM launcher mushroom caps have got larger...
by Repulse
04 Oct 2020, 08:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 12532
Views: 2012947
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

SKB wrote:Why is the DoD still calling the F-35B a "Joint Strike Fighter" when that old designation was dropped for "Lightning II" instead years ago ?


Getting ready for a rename to “Sea Lightning”?! :lol:
by Repulse
03 Oct 2020, 17:23
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: U.K. UAV's/Drones
Replies: 243
Views: 56970
Location: United Kingdom

Re: U.K. UAV's/Drones

Not seen this picture of a Protector (Sea Gaurdian) conducting ASW ops before posted by Air Marshall Andrew Turner on Twitter. Good complementary capability to the P8.

by Repulse
03 Oct 2020, 16:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

An entire LRG based around an embarked helicopter capacity of 3 Merlin? Fine in the Med but not elsewhere. It’s a fair point, but it’s obviously something the RN is trialling. Is there any need to build anything else? I’d argue that a lot can be achieved with what the RN has, rather than focus alwa...
by Repulse
03 Oct 2020, 12:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Given the potential noise that the Royal Navy could be a relative winner out of the SDSR (I.e. the fleet stays the same size), I thought I’d update my table to reflect a post SDSR fleet optimised around 2 CSGs (one always available), 3 LRGs and forward based minor vessels (but keeping the Kipion esc...
by Repulse
28 Sep 2020, 21:26
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4991
Views: 784401
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

RAF Air Marshall Richard Knighton says we are planning for the carriers to deploy with up to 24 British F-35s by 2023. 18 x F35s have been delivered with other 30 aircraft to come over the next five years. "We will need to buy more than 48 aircraft to sustain carrier capability over the long t...
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 19:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It's hard to see how the 2x CSG, 2x LRG structure is going to operate efficiently with 19 escorts and if some of the T23's are decommissioned early in the upcoming review it looks impossible. Having a 2 CSG + 2 LRG structure is possible with 19 escorts, but it requires a completely different way of...
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 14:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Roders96 wrote:Would it be beneficial for the RN to exchange 2 future T26 for 4 Up gunned T31 (with towed sonar) and another squadron of Merlins during the current review?


No. Firstly, cutting class sizes will not save the money everyone thinks, secondly we need an ASW platform that is fit for purpose.
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 11:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The RB2 being forward based are only a temporary measure while the T31s are built. So if T31s are forward deployed why would one need to be used in the FRE role since the forward deployed ones would react quicker. If the T31s are now LRG escorts and used for Kipion, then the B2s maybe doing the for...
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 10:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

However, in recent years the role has been gapped on occasions, or combined with the TAPS role. If one ship is covering TAPS and FRE, then it is pretty much restricted to home waters. Spot on, and in the future without Singleton deployments, then there is no longer the option to rob Peter to pay Pa...
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 09:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If that’s the case the doesn’t the whole forward basing of vessel get rid of that need as they will be much closer ? Not if it’s an OPV which will be the mainstay of the RNs forward deployments. The “ready” LRG / CSG will cover some of this, but in the majority of real life scenarios this is not ap...
by Repulse
27 Sep 2020, 09:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 12333
Views: 1612070
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This points to the need for the 5 T31s to be up armed if they are to used as escorts. Plus the need to buy more of them. Or buy more T26. Assigning a T31 to the “active” LRG would require 3 of the 5, leaving 2. Stretching these two across Kipion and joint covering of the FRE requirement - is probab...

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