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by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 13:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

SW1 wrote:We’re talking stores ship are we not?


We are - apologies.
by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 11:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

SW1 wrote:The rfas and others all went into San Carlos bay under fire. No ship is going close to a high treat environment without an escort and once the opposition have been degraded enough to allow.


Wasn’t aware any tankers went into San Carlos?
by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 11:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

It really depends if the FLSS/LSG concept is now dead too, I suspect it isn't. I suspect the LSG concept is alive and well also - I see the concept working with an Ellida style ship, as it has in some form to date using RFA Victoria. However, I also believe the Amphibious Assault Group (ASG) is ali...
by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 10:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

If this proposal allows these ships to operate in a role almost like a depot ship of the past supports smaller craft in various roles and in particular the transport and deployment of unmanned systems then it seems a sensible approach to add things like dock, hanger and embarked force accommodation...
by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 08:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Clearly SSS is more important than T31, from the viewpoint of the "balanced approach". Ellida's supply capability will be even less than half of the original SSS, I'm afraid. It is like replacing T26 with T31. I have to tend to agree with this statement. The original FLSS concept was for ...
by Repulse
21 Mar 2020, 08:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

(LPD) running costs and crew size are the reason we've ended up with only a single one operating at a time. As far as I understand, the crew size is primarily linked to acting in the role as a Brigade headquarters, which will no longer be the purpose. With the mothballing that has gone on, both are...
by Repulse
19 Mar 2020, 19:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1114
Views: 139851
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Caribbean wrote: In fact, add in 12+ CAMM and maybe we should be building these instead of T31 :twisted:


Who would have thought it - almost like a modern day RFA Fort II :)
by Repulse
08 Mar 2020, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

Would of course mean reducing traditional frigate numbers, marine numbers, mcm vessels to invest in the payload systems because in a finite budget choices have to be made Spot on - marine numbers are already reducing and the MCM fleet looks destined for a slow terminal decline over the next 10 year...
by Repulse
08 Mar 2020, 11:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

SW1 wrote:Who would of thunk it......


True, but it needs to be at the front of mind when choosing platform designs - feels like we forgot it when choosing the T31 design and discussing the option to remove LPDs.
by Repulse
08 Mar 2020, 11:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

What have we lost? Do this (aft), http://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/west_europe/denmark/frigates/absalon/pictures/Absalon_class_command_and_support_ship_flexible_royal_danish_navy_10.jpg stick the T26 mission bay in the middle, and you still have loads of aviation* and locations for def...
by Repulse
08 Mar 2020, 10:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

As a side note both the River B1 and B2 have the space and cranes that can lift 16 tons plus so if we take the base line there of 10 meters long 8.9 tons and 48 hours submerged means a B2 river can carry 2 one on each waist point and a B1 River could carry 1 on its working deck and as said before t...
by Repulse
08 Mar 2020, 08:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

The T26 Mission Bay Handling System is supposedly able to handle up to 15 tonnes.

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/the-ty ... velopment/
by Repulse
06 Mar 2020, 20:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator
Replies: 53
Views: 13859
Location: United Kingdom

Re: NavyX - the Royal Navy’s new Autonomy and Lethality Accelerator

Or is he willing to say scrap the Albions to find the necessary funding. Or the T31e programme. Scrapping the Albions (which are amongst the most flexible ships in the fleet) is madness. Complete blue sky, but illustrates a point - what if the Albions were modified to have a permanent hangar for 3-...
by Repulse
04 Mar 2020, 20:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?
Replies: 241
Views: 49226
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Should the royal navy have a real hospital ship?

abc123 wrote:Soon the question will be "should the RN have a real frigates"?


I think that’s already been answered with the T31e.
by Repulse
02 Mar 2020, 09:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 124376
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

I don’t believe the Albion Class could be converted into a mini LHD, Where did this come from ?. the best we could hope for is both LPD's back in service as are. A LPD based EoS is still a big statement We are discussing adding aviation assets to a LPD and comparing to Dutch ships - we need to be c...
by Repulse
02 Mar 2020, 07:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 124376
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

I don’t believe the Albion Class could be converted into a mini LHD, it is optimised for sea operations (fast craft, landing craft and unmanned assets). What I am proposing is a larger Bay style temporary hangar that could shelter a Merlin, or a couple of Wildcats / UAVs.
by Repulse
01 Mar 2020, 22:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 768
Views: 124376
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

It seems bonkers that we have two very flexible ships, which are optimised for Littoral Operations and hosting off board systems, that a lot of people want to get rid of. What’s more, as they have been laid up for long periods I see no reason why the two LPDs cannot run till the end of 2030s. Much b...
by Repulse
29 Feb 2020, 10:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 964952
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The UK has 2 requirements for escorts, protection to a carrier group and to support CASD the rest is optional. I’d expand slightly and say defence of U.K./BOT EEZ , the (joint NATO) Sea Control in North Atlantic, CEPP and CASD. This means the 2 CVFs, 7 SSNs, 6 T45s, 8-10 T26s, a few Support RFAs, p...
by Repulse
21 Feb 2020, 06:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6395
Views: 574961
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Incremental procurement; do you think it's an idea that will catch on in the UK? I can see how it suits countries with smaller budgets or smaller procurement programmes around the edges of larger ones for larger countries to even out the overall budget - it all comes down whether increment 2, 3 etc...
by Repulse
20 Feb 2020, 20:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11348
Views: 1254120
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

bobp wrote:
abc123 wrote:Just 4 Type 23?


I see 9


Can’t seem to get beyond a blurry image, but it looks like 4 GP + 9 ASW. Was expecting 5 + 8; now let’s hope for 9 ASW T26s :P
by Repulse
15 Feb 2020, 17:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 964952
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Given the repeated statements that all departments must find 5% of savings and the news of more B2 Rivers being forward deployed (though now retracted), I think it is inevitable that the RN will loose 3 T23s over the next few years. Outside of CEPP (which requires 6 DDs and 6 ASW FFs) and TAPS (2 AS...
by Repulse
15 Feb 2020, 08:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3142
Views: 330399
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Clyde still on a lease due to expire I believe in March. Keeping it for UK Fisheries/EEZ duties IMO is a no brainier given the likely post Brexit turbulence over the next few years.
by Repulse
10 Feb 2020, 21:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11381
Views: 964952
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

continuous construction with minimal gaps You mean a stable pipeline of business that companies can plan to and the government doesn’t incur costs for short term delays and destroying and then rebuilding capabilities - it’ll never catch on... In my view the RN could have got three more T26s for the...

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